Rangers

[smange]

The now 'Big Gers' take revenge on them.

My day just keeps getting better.....payback for the ba#t#rds after what they did all those years back.

http://www.berwickrangersfc.co.uk/f-news/news.html

Go on the 'Big Gers', wont feel bad giving them my money on saturday for the pre-season friendly now then Dodger:thup:

Thats if and only if the 'wee Gers' are in the right and proper division after fridays vote otherwise I wont be attending that or any other game relating to Scottish football in the future

 

[Dodger]

Scathing statement from Clyde tonight. Regan and others credibility cannot possibly recover from this.

Regan's position is untenable. I wouldn't put another penny into the SFA's pockets until he's gone.

http://www.clydefc.co.uk/statement.html

 

[StuartD]

To be demoted you have to be there in the first place, Newco are not there so it's not demotion or punishment. If anything it's promotion 2 leagues above where they should be.

Sevco currently own all the assets of RFC. The only thing they do not have is the sfa registrtion/license. In a div1 scenario that would be handed to the newco as stated by the sfa. From a footballing perspective that would mean RFC being the same club continuing under a different corporate identity. Many clubs throughout Europe have done this and are viewed as exactly the same club by FIFA/UEFA.Therefore Div1 will be seen as demotion and punishment for RFC in a footballing perspective.

Clubs have done a newco switch and not suffered any punishments from their home FA. THere are no rules in most nations that state a newco scenario means starting from the bottom. Indeed in this country the only issue is that there are no rules of transfer from SPL to SFL(unless through relegation) and that is why newco must look to div3. UEFA have reconised the potential benifits of a newco switch to shed debt and therefore have brought in the three year rule. If all newco's started from the bottom again then there would have been little need to bring this rule in

 

[Val]

Stuart I think we are aware that newco bought the assets but don't have the registration so they can't be demoted because they are not there.

That's a fact my friend, like it or not, you cannot relegate/demote/punish something that doesn't exist.

 

[StuartD]

Scathing statement from Clyde tonight. Regan and others credibility cannot possibly recover from this.

Regan's position is untenable. I wouldn't put another penny into the SFA's pockets until he's gone.

http://www.clydefc.co.uk/statement.html

Always been a good read these statements. You can tell it's a fans group in charge. Nice to see that there website seems to be coping too.

So after getting rejected by the SPL, Charles Green was quoted "We shall now apply to the SFL and play in whatever league they see fit" Lo and behold it looks as if he has never made an application.

Shock ***** Horror:mmm:

 

[StuartD]

Stuart I think we are aware that newco bought the assets but don't have the registration so they can't be demoted because they are not there.

That's a fact my friend, like it or not, you cannot relegate/demote/punish something that doesn't exist.

Read my post. in the Div1 scenario it would have to have been transferred. Sevco cant be demoted as they are/will never be a football club.THe registration is for the football club. If that is transferred the football club is a going concern in FIFA eyes, whether its transferred to you,me or sevco. If its not transferred then the club is dead

 

[Val]

Read my post. in the Div1 scenario it would have to have been transferred. Sevco cant be demoted as they are/will never be a football club.THe registration is for the football club. If that is transferred the football club is a going concern in FIFA eyes, whether its transferred to you,me or sevco. If its not transferred then the club is dead

I read your post and can only comment on what is current rather than what might happen, what ,ight happen is all speculation and we have had that aplenty for months.

HMRC have done a deal
Confident a CVA will be agreed

Etc etc etc

Rangers no longer exist in football terms so cannot be put anywhere, that is the bottom line currently.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Not good news.
It is starting to look like an 11 team SPL for next season.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Story going around that The Proclaimers are going to re-write Letter from America.

 

[6inchcup]

i heard they were trying to buy an ENGLISH lower division club and playing in the football league,i heard BURY,TRANMERE AND ONE OF THE SHEFFIELD clubs have been sounded out.

 

[AMcC]

Heard yesterday that the proposed new goal line technology will not be available to Rangers as the manufacturers have confirmed it does not work with jackets used as goal posts. :whoo:

 

[Dodger]

The situation summed up perfectly here...

http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/the-last-drink-in-the-last-chance-saloon/

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I have a friend who works for Sky and she said that many Scottish football fans are cancelling their subscriptions.

 

[Val]

I have a friend who works for Sky and she said that many Scottish football fans are cancelling their subscriptions.

Many like me cancel ESPN over the close season anyway.

 

[smange]

Starting to sound like they gonna get into the 1st division:angry:

Hope Scottish football is ready for the mass exodus of fans from the terraces.

They have done a poll on the Dunfermline fans website and 58% of the 1300 who have answered so far say they will never be back at a game in Scotland. I know some will have voted on more than one occasion and there will be some who wont stick to their word but say that accounts for the 300 that leave 1000 fans of which 58% wont be back at a game.

I know Dunfermline cant afford to lose that percentage of its support and I guess it will be similar numbers throughout the rest of Scottish football, so I would think that alone will spell financial meltdown for Scottish football and something the powers that be should really take note of before trying to bully every "wee team" into allowing an easy route back for Newco.

NO to Newco in the 1st Division is a must

 

[StuartD]

just got the following text with an update on clubs voting intentions

Annan Athletic -- support divided 50/50 One says aye and one says nuh

Elgin City -- Awaiting confirmation from Ibrox that its ok for one supporter to take his dog into the stadium.

Montrose Support currently holidaying in Torremolinos all efforts to reach him by text have failed as he has an O2 mobile

Forfar Athletic -- Awaiting confirmation from McLaren the baker that they can supply sufficient quantity of bridies, before committing their vote.

Peterhead-- Fits it a' aboot like?

 

[6inchcup]

you have got to look on the bright side,less wife beating,knife fights etc i bet the police are over the moon.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Can anyone confirm that newco have not applied to join the SFL.

If that is the case, it is a total establishment fit up.
Jings the SFA are worse than FIFA.

The only other option is that we are going for a season with only 11 teams in the SPL.

 

[StuartD]

Can anyone confirm that newco have not applied to join the SFL.

If that is the case, it is a total establishment fit up.
Jings the SFA are worse than FIFA.

The only other option is that we are going for a season with only 11 teams in the SPL.

I believe they have now applied but not given the SFL any information with the application

Have a look at the latest clyde statement below

The Board of Clyde Football Club has received the papers in advance of tomorrows SFL meeting and will consider the Heads of Terms supplied. We continue to have the same fundamental concerns about this process, however the overriding concern is a point which we have made to the SFL.

We have received absolutely no information on the organisation Sevco Scotland Ltd whom we are being asked, and encouraged, to vote straight into the top division of the SFL under resolution 2 and possibly into SFL 3 under Resolution 1. We have no business plan, list of directors, details of ownership, statement of capital adequacy or any proposals relating to the provision of any similar information in the near future. David Longmuir has clearly stated that he will distribute all the information he has got or is able to distribute.

Whilst the notion that there is a leap of faith to be taken in terms of some of the matters, there can be no leap of faith with something as fundamental as knowing who is being admitted to the league. The very fact that there is no information of any kind being made available on this company undermines the authorities efforts to direct the new entrant to SFL 1. It is actually impossible for any member of the SFL to make an objective assessment of the proposals under Resolutions 1 and 2 and could be seen as irresponsible to support either proposal in such a void of information.

It is our hope that some credibility can be introduced to this process and we would ask that whoever holds information on Sevco Scotland Ltd provides a full and detailed pack to David Longmuir in order that even at the eleventh hour the SFL clubs are given reason to support any Resolutions that they might wish to vote on. We have to assume that the SFA and SPL hold such information otherwise they would not press so heavily for entry to SFL 1.

If a leap of faith is to be taken, then in the current circumstances it will be taken blindly and the only logical outcome of taking that kind of risk would be to enter them to SFL 3, where, should any subsequent issues arise they will be contained within the lowest league rather than disrupting the top flight of the SFL.

The other matter that is entirely outside the gift of the SFL is the need for the SPL clubs to confirm that contrary to what Neil Doncaster stated on their behalf, the SPL will meet its obligations to the SFL under the Settlement Agreement.


The questions being asked are the same as the ones rangers fans have been asking for months

 

[Dodger]

Peterheed ken fit it's a' aboot Stuart...

Peterhead expressed surprise that a 16-team top-flight, which had been rejected as "unattractive and potentially undeliverable" in the SPL's own strategic plan in April 2011, was now being proposed "a mere 36 hours prior to Friday's meeting".
"Whilst we have always stated that we would welcome proposals for league reconstruction independent of the Rangers crisis, we are left with a sense of wonderment at many of the newly proposed changes to the league - changes that were deemed wholly unworkable prior to newco Rangers application to join the SFL after expulsion from the SPL," they said in a website statement.

"Although we are to come under severe pressure from bodies outwith the SFL to accept these fast-tracked changes to accommodate a newco team and to hail this proposal as a 'blueprint to safeguard the future of Scottish football', we must retain our stance and those of the majority of our fans to vote no.

"We still believe that to maintain fairness in our game and to restore faith in Scottish football, there is no alternative but to admit a newco team into Division Three.

"We understand the ramifications of this as laid out by the SFA and understand that there will be financial implications for all clubs should this be the outcome.

"However, although there may be tough times ahead for Scottish football, we believe we can weather the storm."


:thup: