Orikoru
Tour Winner
Playing greensomes format, if both of you spaff your drives (both potentially lost or out of bounds) do you both hit provisionals? Or just choose one of you to do it?
Provisionals In Greensomes
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Swango1980
Well-known member
This was on Buckinghamshire Golf:
"PROVISIONAL BALL FROM TEE
A provisional ball can only be played if BOTH balls may be lost outside a Penalty Area or Out of Bounds. Only ONE of the players may play a provisional ball and the provisional ball must be played after BOTH players have teed off. In a Greensomes competition, the provisional ball must be played from the tee of the partner. If EITHER of the original balls is found in bounds or is lost in a Penalty Area, the provisional ball must be abandoned."
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rulefan
Tour Winner
As both have made their first stroke they must now decide who makes the second. So it is up to them who plays the provisional. If that goes OOB, the other plays the next.
Arthur Wedge
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
Oh - oops. We blobbed the hole anyway but turns out we blobbed it illegally. 
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Great question though - one I hadn't a clue as to the answer. I assume the same applies for mixed foursomes and (apart from the 'which tee' aspect) also foursomes - both which I'm playing 1st round matches in the coming few weeks 
Neilds
Assistant Pro
In foursomes, the player who would have played the next shot plays the provisional - Player A hits shot into dodgy area, Player B plays provisional. Continue as normal.Great question though - one I hadn't a clue as to the answer. I assume the same applies for mixed foursomes and (apart from the 'which tee' aspect) also foursomes - both which I'm playing 1st round matches in the coming few weeks
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Of course - was having a brain fade.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Swango1980
Well-known member
I mean, the answer is in the first line of the comment you replied to
rulefan
Tour Winner
I thought 'tees' were little pegs you stick in the groundI mean, the answer is in the first line of the comment you replied to
Swango1980
Well-known member
I copy and pasted it. So, any confusion in what they are trying to say, I recommend you contact themI thought 'tees' were little pegs you stick in the ground
rulefan
Tour Winner
mañana possibly
Colin L
Tour Winner
Foursomes are significantly different. Firstly the format is recognised and legislated for (Rule 22) and secondly the side doesn't get a mulligan and a choice of second shot. Greensomes, like scrambles, need clarification from the Committee of what to do in certain situations .Great question though - one I hadn't a clue as to the answer. I assume the same applies for mixed foursomes and (apart from the 'which tee' aspect) also foursomes - both which I'm playing 1st round matches in the coming few weeks
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I knew about foursomes as it's resulted in a couple of occasions where I got to hit off the red tees in mixed foursomes matches over the last two years.Great question though - one I hadn't a clue as to the answer. I assume the same applies for mixed foursomes and (apart from the 'which tee' aspect) also foursomes - both which I'm playing 1st round matches in the coming few weeks
cliveb
Head Pro
That's OK.I knew about foursomes as it's resulted in a couple of occasions where I got to hit off the red tees in mixed foursomes matches over the last two years.
Very different when the lady has to play off the white tee. She was NOT happy
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, been there as well.That's OK.
Very different when the lady has to play off the white tee. She was NOT happy
The shame..
3offTheTee
Tour Rookie
1.Still relating to Greensomes so do not want to start a new thread. If a playing partner’s ball is in a bunker and it still remains in the bunker after attempting to get out can the bunker be raked?
2. Know there is a penalty in 4BBB but can a playing partner stand behind on the line of putt when his partner is putting?
2. Know there is a penalty in 4BBB but can a playing partner stand behind on the line of putt when his partner is putting?
Colin L
Tour Winner
Once the second shot of a hole is played, this format reverts to the rules-recognised procedures of foursomes and so it makes sense to apply normal rules..
1. Yes, but not where it would improve the conditions of the next stroke. See Rule 12.2b(2)
2. The partner cannot stand on close to or on an extension of the line of play behind the ball to gain information for the next stroke. That applies anywhere not just on the putting green. See Rule 22.6. The rule about the restricted area behind the ball for caddies also apples to partners. See Rule 10.2b(4). But standing behind the ball for a purpose like following the flight of ball (as we do when someone is playing into the sun) is permitted.
Edit. Vital words missed out.
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rulie
Head Pro
Just for interest, what is a "playing partner"? Is it your partner in the competition, or just someone else you're playing with?
