Swango1980
Well-known member
Is that a serious question?
Provisionals In Greensomes
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rulie
Head Pro
Yes, seeking clarity in these questions:
1.Still relating to Greensomes so do not want to start a new thread. If a playing partner’s ball is in a bunker and it still remains in the bunker after attempting to get out can the bunker be raked?
2. Know there is a penalty in 4BBB but can a playing partner stand behind on the line of putt when his partner is putting?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
We're talking about greensomes, your playing partner is your playing partner. What else could he mean??
rulie
Head Pro
In the Rules, there is "partner", but no such thing as "playing partner". Some people refer to others in the group as "playing partner". Hear it from TV commentators as well.
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Swango1980
Well-known member
I think anyone with common sense where able to interpret the question that was being asked
rulefan
Tour Winner
'Partner' is a defined term. 'Playing Partner' is and was not. Some years ago those playing with you, if not Partners or Opponents, were called Fellow Competitors. But the terms Fellow Competitors and Competitor are no longer recognised
rulie
Head Pro
I understand all that. But what is a "playing partner"? I presume that it is not recognized in the Rules, just like fellow competitor (but both are still in common use).
rulefan
Tour Winner
As the only mention of 'partner' in the Rules relates to someone on the same side it should mean the same thing.
The term has never been featured in the Rules so has no official meaning.
The TV commentators are, as usual, simply confusing matters. How can you have a partner if you are not playing with them?
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Blimey - didn’t realise it was such an issue
For me it’s simple
Playing partner is someone you are playing with in a partnership
( or maybe a team )
“Fellow competitor” is someone else in the group that is playing in the same comp but you are not partnering them
For me it’s simple
Playing partner is someone you are playing with in a partnership
( or maybe a team )“Fellow competitor” is someone else in the group that is playing in the same comp but you are not partnering them
Steven Rules
Well-known member
Simple...but not quite right. As others have said, 'playing partner' is not defined. Use of the term 'team' is not right in this context either. Let's go to the source. The definitions of 'partner' and 'side' are as follows.For me it’s simple
Playing partner is someone you are playing with in a partnership
Partner
A player who competes together with another player as a side, in either match play or stroke play.
Side
Two or more partners competing as a single unit in a round in match play or stroke play.
Each set of partners is a side, whether each partner plays his or her own ball (Four-Ball) or the partners play one ball (Foursomes).
A side is not the same as a team. In a team competition, each team consists of players competing as individuals or as sides.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
You lot are very pedantic. If we're specifically talking about greensomes (and we are), and someone mentions their playing partner, they are obviously talking about their partner in the greensomes comp aren't they? If they do mean someone else then they misspoke. 
