prov1 and pro v1x users

[Foxholer]

Pro V is still a premium ball and 'ultimate spin control' is a bit of Marketing-speak, otherwise Dave has them described pretty well.

There are things I like and dislike about both of them, so my choice is the inbetweenees - Penta (or Lethal) or any Bridgestone B330s or Srixon Z-Stars (except XV which is like the ProV1X to me). While I can tell the difference between Pro V1 and V1X and Penta (5), All Bridgestones and Srixons have all felt pretty similar - except the VX (and maybe the RX?).

The NXT Tour S seems to work for me as well! Feels more like the Prov1, but better performance (for me) and feel off Putter is better (again, for me).

 

[guest100718]

The v1x should go further for most than the v1. The pro v1s are good balls with predictablel spin. just very over priced.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Same as hawkeye says plus Both response the same around the green drop and stop.

I didn't say anything

But while I'm here, for what it's worth I'm not a massive fan of either although if I was forced to choose I'd go with the 1x as the 1 feels a bit too squidgy for my liking.

You can get equally good balls, and ones which I personally prefer (Z-Star\B330-S\HEX Black Tour) at a much better price the ProV1s, they are very good balls, but simply aren't worth the money IMHO.

 

[bladeplayer]

I dont mean to be insulting or demeaning here im so apologies if it appears that way but how many of us on here actually hit the ball well enough consistently enough to notice the difference in balls of equal quality..

I can totally understand putting and the feel of the ball off the putter because there is alot more touch involved in it , but with driver & irons id be of the opinion we at our level have different contacts and spin rates on the ball every time we hit it so i dont see the subtle differences in equal quality balls being a massive help or hinderence

i use titleist because i prefer them ive also used the TM Penta and they are lovely ball im just wondering tho if i hit 10 chips with each ball would the 10 shots be the same or react the same ? personally i dont think so ..

Thoughts ?

 

[Robobum]

The prov 1 x is 4 1/2 yds longer on carry with my driver but the prov 1 has about 80 more rpm with an easy 58* wedge.

 

[patricks148]

Im not so much of a fan of the new ProV1X feels just like an NXT to me.
Ive still lots of the 2011/12 so use those in comps etc.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I dont mean to be insulting or demeaning here im so apologies if it appears that way but how many of us on here actually hit the ball well enough consistently enough to notice the difference in balls of equal quality..

I can totally understand putting and the feel of the ball off the putter because there is alot more touch involved in it , but with driver & irons id be of the opinion we at our level have different contacts and spin rates on the ball every time we hit it so i dont see the subtle differences in equal quality balls being a massive help or hinderence

i use titleist because i prefer them ive also used the TM Penta and they are lovely ball im just wondering tho if i hit 10 chips with each ball would the 10 shots be the same or react the same ? personally i dont think so ..

Thoughts ?

I suspect none of us really hit the ball well enough consistently enough, but you can feel\hear the difference between a lot of the premium offerings. Callaway balls tend to be harder, the HEX Black being softer than most of their offerings but not as soft as the ProV1. The B330S also has a lower flight off of the wedges than the ProV1, at least it does in my experience. I would find it harder to tell the difference between a B330-S and a HEX Black than a B330-S and a ProV1.

I'm not saying I'm an expert, a great ball striker or it makes any difference but it is possible to tell the difference between some models and others.

 

[One Planer]

I dont mean to be insulting or demeaning here im so apologies if it appears that way but how many of us on here actually hit the ball well enough consistently enough to notice the difference in balls of equal quality..

I can totally understand putting and the feel of the ball off the putter because there is alot more touch involved in it , but with driver & irons id be of the opinion we at our level have different contacts and spin rates on the ball every time we hit it so i dont see the subtle differences in equal quality balls being a massive help or hinderence

i use titleist because i prefer them ive also used the TM Penta and they are lovely ball im just wondering tho if i hit 10 chips with each ball would the 10 shots be the same or react the same ? personally i dont think so ..

Thoughts ?

I understand what you mean up to a point Bill.

As I say. I played the V1 for best part of 2 years so I, kind of, knew what to expect from it when struck. When I started with the V1x in October last year, I would say the differences were noticable just because they were different to the norm'.

If I was playing V1, then V1x, chopping and changing every round, I would agree the differences wouldn't be noticable.

As I said. I played one (... The V1) for best part of 2 years, so when I changed to the V1x, I would argue I would notice a difference as I was so used the the V1.

I hope that makes sense

 

[bladeplayer]

I understand what you mean up to a point Bill.

As I say. I played the V1 for best part of 2 years so I, kind of, knew what to expect from it when struck. When I started with the V1x in October last year, I would say the differences were noticable just because they were different to the norm'.

If I was playing V1, then V1x, chopping and changing every round, I would agree the differences wouldn't be noticable.

As I said. I played one (... The V1) for best part of 2 years, so when I changed to the V1x, I would argue I would notice a difference as I was so used the the V1.

I hope that makes sense

Totaly mate yeah , the bits i highlighted could be the reason i dont notice it , i have a mixture of all pro v's & x's in the bag and i just pick one and play it .. but like yourself if i stuck to one for a while then changed i also might notice the difference ..

might just try it for a while , thanks

 

[bladeplayer]

I suspect none of us really hit the ball well enough consistently enough, but you can feel\hear the difference between a lot of the premium offerings. Callaway balls tend to be harder, the HEX Black being softer than most of their offerings but not as soft as the ProV1. The B330S also has a lower flight off of the wedges than the ProV1, at least it does in my experience. I would find it harder to tell the difference between a B330-S and a HEX Black than a B330-S and a ProV1.

I'm not saying I'm an expert, a great ball striker or it makes any difference but it is possible to tell the difference between some models and others.

Thanks Mike as i was saying to Gareth maybe the reason i dont notice a difference between the different pro v's is maybe i chop & change too much so they are both kinda normal ..

 

[Pistol Peter]

I dont mean to be insulting or demeaning here im so apologies if it appears that way but how many of us on here actually hit the ball well enough consistently enough to notice the difference in balls of equal quality..

I can totally understand putting and the feel of the ball off the putter because there is alot more touch involved in it , but with driver & irons id be of the opinion we at our level have different contacts and spin rates on the ball every time we hit it so i dont see the subtle differences in equal quality balls being a massive help or hinderence

i use titleist because i prefer them ive also used the TM Penta and they are lovely ball im just wondering tho if i hit 10 chips with each ball would the 10 shots be the same or react the same ? personally i dont think so ..

Thoughts ?

I agree with you, most of the lads on here would not be able to tell the difference between playing with a Donnay Ball or a Pro V1 and if they were to go and get a ball fitting would probably be advised to avoid the Pro V as they don't have the correct swing speed to get the best from the ball.

 

[bladeplayer]

I agree with you, most of the lads on here would not be able to tell the difference between playing with a Donnay Ball or a Pro V1 and if they were to go and get a ball fitting would probably be advised to avoid the Pro V as they don't have the correct swing speed to get the best from the ball.

Not exactly what i said tho mate , balls of equal quality i was talking bout , ie prov1 & prov v1 x

 

[In_The_Rough]

I said on another thread the same thing. I bet if a test was done the bulk of people on here could not identify what brand/model of ball it was they were hitting. I know I couldn't for starters and I play off 8 and apart from my Driver hit the ball consistently well. So all this talk of mid and high handicappers being able to tell is rubbish IMO of course. I am doing this topic for my next research project at college so the results will be interesting to say the least.

 

[guest100718]

I agree with you, most of the lads on here would not be able to tell the difference between playing with a Donnay Ball or a Pro V1 and if they were to go and get a ball fitting would probably be advised to avoid the Pro V as they don't have the correct swing speed to get the best from the ball.

What difference does swing speed make? Most shots are hit at a very low SS.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I agree with you, most of the lads on here would not be able to tell the difference between playing with a Donnay Ball or a Pro V1 and if they were to go and get a ball fitting would probably be advised to avoid the Pro V as they don't have the correct swing speed to get the best from the ball.

You might want to read Titleist's view on that statement...

http://www.titleist.co.uk/teamtitle...golf-ball-fitting-affects-of-swing-speed.aspx

 

[Pistol Peter]

Not exactly what i said tho mate , balls of equal quality i was talking bout , ie prov1 & prov v1 x

Sorry but I think you get where I am coming from.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Thanks Mike as i was saying to Gareth maybe the reason i dont notice a difference between the different pro v's is maybe i chop & change too much so they are both kinda normal ..

Could be

 

[Pistol Peter]

You might want to read Titleist's view on that statement...

http://www.titleist.co.uk/teamtitle...golf-ball-fitting-affects-of-swing-speed.aspx

Yep marketing hype to get all levels of handicaps to use their ball rather than a cheaper ball, if this was the case then why would they make all the other balls (nxt pts etc) I bet if you went out with a Donnay it would make no difference to your score and that goes for almost everyone.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Yep marketing hype to get all levels of handicaps to use their ball rather than a cheaper ball, if this was the case then why would they make all the other balls (nxt pts etc) I bet if you went out with a Donnay it would make no difference to your score and that goes for almost everyone.

Your probably right, but that isn't the point of the thread.

 

[BTatHome]

All my best rounds have been with balls that are less than premium balls (Wilson px3 I shot one over gross).

Personally I can sometimes feel a small difference between some balls, but could definitely say I can't always see the difference on the course ... have done side by side testing with premium and 2 piece and found no specific improvement when using premium balls (I'm just not consistent enough !)