Protocols for arranging matches

It rhymes with rollocks.

I 100% agree Homer, the thought of writing a letter because you can't get a match played is absolutely ludicrous. If you took that attitude at our club, people would be taking great delight in giving your arse a good kicking in these comps.

Each to their own though.
 
Top team do the phoning, but if no match can be arranged, the team standing on the first tee, at 11 am on the deadline day take the win. If both teams turn up, you play.

I like this one Murph. Simple.

Our Summer singles has been a joke, I ran around trying to get a game fixed towards the end of May because I knew I wasn't going to be around for about 3 weekends, and I would have been past the play by date. No problem, got beat.

However in the pairs we knocked out the past champions and my partner had to play one of the guys in the singles, again this was in May. The game was eventually played in September 4 months after the play by date.

As it stands today, one half of the Summer single still has one quarter final game to play, whilst in the other half of the draw the guy has been waiting since about the beginning of September to play the final.

I think they are cracking down though in the Winter Knockouts, as i noticed last week that several games had already been played.

Note to one self, get my single opponets telephone nunber on Sunday.
 
I've only encountered this with the society which is based at work. still get the problems though. the rule is first named pair offer four dates one of which has to be a weekend.

but out of any four you'll get one who can only play weekends, one who can't play weekends, one who is out of country on business and doesn't get back until the day before the deadline, and one trying like mad to get something organised
 
Ours is pretty much same as most on here, top name/pair to contact opponents to arrange game. If no game arranged both d/q'd so second name sometimes makes necessary call. Last day before deadlines always sees plenty of matches being squeezed in. Never had too much trouble and once or twice have agreed a w/o when one of us couldn't fix up a date.

Always thought there might be a case for having later rounds or just quarters and semis on fixed day/time, like the final, to ensure they're played in good time but I can see problems with that too.
 
It rhymes with rollocks.

I 100% agree Homer, the thought of writing a letter because you can't get a match played is absolutely ludicrous. If you took that attitude at our club, people would be taking great delight in giving your arse a good kicking in these comps.

Each to their own though.

Its not something I'd do with any relish. However the rules are quite clear about the responsibility being shared between both opponents and the threat being that if the match isn't played by the due date that both would be D/Q'd. If (as has happened) I've offered four or five dates and times and the opponent hasn't agreed to any of them, then I think I'm entitled to raise the matter officially (with the comp sec in writing) and protect my position in the event.

What else do you suggest. If a mutually agreeable date isn't agreed how would you proceed and why should I suffer having made numerous offers (including either day over two weekends and a midweek date and time of their choice)
 
If you can't agree a date why not just speak to the comps guy and ask for some intervention to avoid something as over the top as a letter "protecting your position!!" It's a poxy knock out comp played by club amateurs for christ's sake.

Doesn't that sound more sportsmanlike and in the spirit of the comp rather than firing letters of intent off all over the place.
 
That's been tried. A guy was in a similar position in the winter knockout and had real trouble getting his 1st round game organised as the other guy just wasn't accepting any dates over a 4 week period including weekends and weekdays. The guy even offered to take a day off and play the guy midweek (he'd retired) but strangely there were still no suitable days despite him playing with his mates twice a week.

The guy went to the comp sec who basically said play it or you are both out. Lo that's what happened and it kicked up a right stink and which is why the club introduced the put the details in writing so that a more balanced decision can now be made. I guess it's a case of one or two intransigent guys making it tougher for everyone.
 
If you can't agree a date why not just speak to the comps guy and ask for some intervention to avoid something as over the top as a letter "protecting your position!!" It's a poxy knock out comp played by club amateurs for christ's sake.

Doesn't that sound more sportsmanlike and in the spirit of the comp rather than firing letters of intent off all over the place.

I would not class our annual club knockouts as " poxy " and with over 700 members in our club our 5 annual knockout comps are classed as Majors and your name goes on the board in the club house.

I am very proud of my name being on the board after winning a couple of knockouts over the years of which I know for a fact many club members would love the very same privilage.
 
Your club sounds a fantastic place to be a member at.

Whatever

And of course in the land of milk and honey you inhabit there aren't any members that are a pain and any problems with the way everything runs.

As I said it was a few when the ruling was introduced that have made it hard for the majority. The club has to perhaps take some blame for their rigid approach but the simple fact was games weren't getting played. And the knockouts are a big deal. They are "majors" and usually have a hefty pot at the end for the winner.

And yes it's a great club thank you
 
A piece of tin, £100 in the pro shop and some gold writing on a board.

Which one of these makes it so important? Don't we play golf for fun including these "major" knock out comps? None of those are going to change anyone's life are they?

If it boils down to gaining a place in the next round by writing letters then yes, it is 100% poxy in my mind.
 
A piece of tin, £100 in the pro shop and some gold writing on a board.

Which one of these makes it so important? Don't we play golf for fun including these "major" knock out comps? None of those are going to change anyone's life are they?

The majority of golfers do play golf for fun and I will include myself in that and knockout comps are a very important part of club golf.

I think you will find that your views on major knockouts are very much agreed by only the minority of golfers
 
Don't get me wrong Griff, I want to win every match I play in and don't give any quarter during a match.

But calling them majors and getting steamed up over a tin pot and a pro shop voucher (and some gold letters) is not worth losing the friendly element of the comp.

I'd rather sit in the bar with everyone enjoying some good banter than sit on my own looking at my name on a winners board.
 
I hardly think that what Homer says about writing a letter in these circumstances would ever end up with anyone sitting in a corner of the bar as " Billy no mates "

Me thinks its time we got this thread back on topic of " Protocols for arranging matches " :) :) :)
 
A my gaff there is a set date that each KO round has to be played. On that date there are reserved tee times for those who haven't yet played.

If, at the end of that day, the winner of that round hasn't been posted, then both are d/q at the discretion of the organiser.

If, however, one person has tried, unsuccessfully, to arrange suitable times then a quiet word to the organiser with details may stand him in good stead.

Writing letters would make him look a complete p***k and would probably come back to haunt him.

Please note that for clarity and brevity I referred to the player as "him" and that should also read "her" where applicable. :)
 
A my gaff there is a set date that each KO round has to be played. On that date there are reserved tee times for those who haven't yet played.

If, at the end of that day, the winner of that round hasn't been posted, then both are d/q at the discretion of the organiser.

If, however, one person has tried, unsuccessfully, to arrange suitable times then a quiet word to the organiser with details may stand him in good stead.

Writing letters would make him look a complete p***k and would probably come back to haunt him.

Please note that for clarity and brevity I referred to the player as "him" and that should also read "her" where applicable. :)

Just me and you in the land of milk and honey then Lefty.

I thought that the outraged people who wrote to Points of View were made up, seems they are alive and well down in Ascot. :rolleyes:

Gotta go, the bunker at 16 wasn't raked very well yesterday so am just typing up something to give to the greenkeeper :D
 
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