A look at the list of past winners of the China Open indicates the big names either don't perform or they aren't there and the opportunity falls to a lesser name on tour
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wjemather
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The China Open has never been more than a mid/lower-level co-sanctioned ET event.
Arthur Wedge
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It was still full of top names
Rory
Lowry
Schaffle
Mickleson
Fleetwood
Molinari
Bradley
Garcia
Fitzpatrick
Finau
Poulter
Casey
Hatton
Read
Matsyuama
Louis
Spieth
Scott
Horchel
Rose
Stenson
It was full of major winners , Ryder Cup players
You aren’t going to get the all
But it was still very much loaded with top golfers at the time and still didnt grab the market
When were these playing?
It was still full of top names
Rory
Lowry
Schaffle
Mickleson
Fleetwood
Molinari
Bradley
Garcia
Fitzpatrick
Finau
Poulter
Casey
Hatton
Read
Matsyuama
Louis
Spieth
Scott
Horchel
Rose
Stenson
It was full of major winners , Ryder Cup players
You aren’t going to get the all
But it was still very much loaded with top golfers at the time and still didnt grab the market
wjemather
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So not "...full of the top players apart from a couple who were injured..." then.
It was still full of top names
Rory
Lowry
Schaffle
Mickleson
Fleetwood
Molinari
Bradley
Garcia
Fitzpatrick
Finau
Poulter
Casey
Hatton
Read
Matsyuama
Louis
Spieth
Scott
Horchel
Rose
Stenson
It was full of major winners , Ryder Cup players
You aren’t going to get the all
But it was still very much loaded with top golfers at the time and still didnt grab the market
If that was a LIV field you'd be incessantly trolling it, saying there's hardly any top players there.
How about, just for a change, you either stop making stuff up (maybe even do some research before stating things as fact that you actually don't know much about), or just put your hands up when you get caught making stuff up instead of trying to wheedle out of it by moving the goalposts?
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Arthur Wedge
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What does it have to do with LIV
It was full of top players in 2019 as by the list above - it’s got nothing to do with LIV
I know you love to hit those very high pendantic levels to go through posts with a fine tooth comb to attempt to rip them apart hence why you prob ignored the rest of the post
The point is very simple
Top players played in the HSBC and crowds didn’t go to watch them
Simple question - how many would have been able to afford to go and watch, how many would the authorities allow to watch and is there actually any interest from the Chinese public anyway?
What does it have to do with LIV
It was full of top players in 2019 as by the list above - it’s got nothing to do with LIV
I know you love to hit those very high pendantic levels to go through posts with a fine tooth comb to attempt to rip them apart hence why you prob ignored the rest of the post
The point is very simple
Top players played in the HSBC and crowds didn’t go to watch them
simsini
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So good to see it on one of the UK's top links courses.
Arthur Wedge
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It’s a shame they couldn’t have it closer to the Scottish Open so have three top links events in a row - would have imo helped improve the field
wjemather
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It has nothing to do with LIV, but you have repeatedly (and recently) used the same arguments in reverse against LIV.
I'm simply highlighting your ever moving goalposts/double-standards and hypocrisy in claiming one has a strong field of top players and the other doesn't.
You habitually make untrue claims to support your opinion thinking no-one will notice or challenge you. If you don't like getting found out, maybe stop doing it?
simsini
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It makes sense it that they had a gap in the schedule and the seniors play there the week before. The course will already be setup.
Arthur Wedge
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Think it’s a couple weeks gap after the Open
If they put it on after the open then that’s before rhe seniors as well and wouldn’t clash with the Fed Ex - might have helped persuade more to stay and play it - especially the top Europeans
simsini
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Didn't the players ask for a gap after The Open, and that's why the European Tour has no events at the end of July. It does seem odd considering it is peak season.
Arthur Wedge
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No idea but would seen a good gap to get some events in the UK played and get players there
simsini
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Instead JCB has a free run that week.
Mel Smooth
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DJ added to those invited to the PGA Championship 
Arthur Wedge
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DJ added to those invited to the PGA Championship
Seems a waste of a spot when there are prob a lot more deserving across multiple tours
AussieKB
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Yep a two time major winner, runner up twice in the PGA.....
but have not heard you complain about all the invites to the Masters.....how many wasted spots there ?
Arthur Wedge
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Who are we talking about when it comes to Masters invites being wasted spots ?
And DJ record in majors since he went to LIV is poor and his record on LIV over the last 18 months doesn’t stand out
SatchFan
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I like DJ. His form may not be great but it's good to have another household name to watch.DJ added to those invited to the PGA Championship