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[fundy]

That's fair enough but I've seen all the angles sky showed and that was more of a foul than the mane pen was. His left leg that was kicked was off the floor and heading away from the player, where as Manes leg was planted iirc.

Anyway it's your opinion, not right nor wrong👍

neither are fouls, HTH

 

[clubchamp98]

The difference should be obvious, but there was a lot more contact in Albrighton's challenge than the one today. He collided fully with Mane's leg whereas Lindelof barely grazed Origi. No bias obviously since they're both Liverpool players, just my opinion on each incident.

He kicked him in the calf as he was turning to run.
The angle from behind shows it quite clearly.
It’s the angle Lindelof has “from behind”
It’s the angle VAR must have seen.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

neither are fouls, HTH

I agree 👍👍. But because those type of fouls are given every week and have been since the early 00's they are now fouls by the new interpretation of rules.HTH.

 

[clubchamp98]

I'm.not too sure his work rate would fit but I doubt Spurs would have a choice given his contract.

He might just up the work rate if Klopp explains what he wants from him.
He is a player that can play a ball on a sixpence just what we need imo of course.

 

[Rlburnside]

I'm.not too sure his work rate would fit but I doubt Spurs would have a choice given his contract.

It might surprise some but Erickson regularly runs more than most other players in the side, his work rate is never an a issue when he's on his game.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Not sure Levy would ever sell to you,
It might surprise some but Erickson regularly runs more than most other players in the side, his work rate is never an a issue when he's on his game.

Levy might not get the choice, that confirms any thoughts. Excellent footballer though.

 

[Papas1982]

It might surprise some but Erickson regularly runs more than most other players in the side, his work rate is never an a issue when he's on his game.

I remember seeing a similar stat about Ozil, I wouldn’t consider Erikson lasy at all, but I guess it depends where the runs he makes are. If he isn’t tracking back the. It could hurt Liverpool (if he were to go there).

 

[Rlburnside]

Levy might not get the choice, that confirms any thoughts. Excellent footballer though.

He realised that then edited

 

[Rlburnside]

Just seen that foul on Origl on motd ridiculous how that was reviewed and not changed,

 

[Rlburnside]

Levy might not get the choice, that confirms any thoughts. Excellent footballer though.

What I ment by on his game is not to judge him since he's wanted away but to judge him over the last 3/4 seasons,he's certainly puts the effort in and has been key player for us.

 

[clubchamp98]

Just seen that foul on Original on motd ridiculous how that was reviewed and not changed,

Agree given the amount of contact on J Evans in the Burnley equaliser but VAR ruled that a foul.
They need to up their game at Shockley Park as that’s not good enough.

Nice to see OGS thanking the ref for his contribution to the game. On motd.

 

[sawtooth]

I find it surprising for people that watch so many live games that they still can’t tell when a player is play acting or not.

Twice in the past few weeks Liverpool players have gone down for the merest contact and when they go to hold their injured leg they chose the wrong one. Cheating of the highest order.

Origi effectively lost the ball with a dodgy first touch. Then make no mistake the defender makes slight contact and Origi takes the opportunity to jump to the ground. Then rolls over and holds the ankle of the opposite leg. The ref and probably the VAR people saw the same thing that I did, it’s just a pity that the players aren’t punished for it.

It’s the scourge of the game and it’s making football less and less enjoyable to watch.

 

[davemc1]

Can someone let DaveMc know MOTD2 is on at 10:30 on BBC1.

You obvs don’t know the rules of the game!

Had it been slime (even me 😆) or Huds or the wrightys or Dave q (however he denies it) I cud except.

Then prob tell them to swivel tbf 😆😆

 

[MegaSteve]

I'll tell you what, loads of opinions on contact, fouls and diving from people who probably have never seen a "PREMIERSHIP" game live or not since Neil Ruddock was in his "pomp".

There is a lot to be admired about how footie has progressed since the arrival of The Prem... But the over playing (often theatrical) of any contact ain't, for me, one of the better aspects... Sooner seen it gone...

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Why did Origi clutch his right leg when the contact was with his left?

 

[clubchamp98]

I find it surprising for people that watch so many live games that they still can’t tell when a player is play acting or not.

Twice in the past few weeks Liverpool players have gone down for the merest contact and when they go to hold their injured leg they chose the wrong one. Cheating of the highest order.

Origi effectively lost the ball with a dodgy first touch. Then make no mistake the defender makes slight contact and Origi takes the opportunity to jump to the ground. Then rolls over and holds the ankle of the opposite leg. The ref and probably the VAR people saw the same thing that I did, it’s just a pity that the players aren’t punished for it.

It’s the scourge of the game and it’s making football less and less enjoyable to watch.

So you can kick someone in the calf from behind ,not getting the ball and it’s not a foul?

How much contact was there in the Burnley equaliser ?
Did J Evans dive.
It was clearly accidental but still a foul.

 

[clubchamp98]

Why did Origi clutch his right leg when the contact was with his left?

Contact so it’s a foul.
He kicked him from behind in the calf.
Not all contact is a foul but I would say if you kick someone in the leg from behind not getting the ball it’s a foul.

You would have to ask Origi that .

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Contact so it’s a foul.
He kicked him from behind in the calf.
Not all contact is a foul but I would say if you kick someone in the leg from behind not getting the ball it’s a foul.

You would have to ask Origi that .

Don't know if there was sufficient contact for Origi's reaction although I accept such contact is sometimes penalised.

The exaggeration may subconsciously influence the referee's decision.

 

[4LEX]

Funny game and I have to give Ole and United credit - it was a masterclass tactically. Very Mourinho like though but given the starting line up the performance for 60 minutes was out of this world. The flip side is how can they do that against Liverpool but roll over against Newcastle or Southampton?

Liverpool were frankly woeful and again despite being so impressive generally in the last few years, this is the second time they've gone to Manchester with a big gap and looked lost. Against City last season they had the chance to kill the title race and got outworked and outclassed tactically. The same happened yesterday and that is why City will win the title. Klopp just looks like he can't make the final step. Plus looking at the back up options there really isn't anything, the attack is paper thin and compare it to City's and the difference is frightening.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Funny game and I have to give Ole and United credit - it was a masterclass tactically. Very Mourinho like though but given the starting line up the performance for 60 minutes was out of this world. The flip side is how can they do that against Liverpool but roll over against Newcastle or Southampton?

Against Liverpool they could stifle the game, they were happy to sit back and pack the midfield. Against Newcastle etc they are expected to attack and those teams can do to them what they did to Liverpool. Playing against poorer tems exposes their own deficiences. Well done to Utd, they stopped the Liverpool bandwagon but the tough thing now is for them to repeat that next game up. I think Liverpool let the occasion and the whole Utd thing get to them. It is the worst they have played in a very long time.