Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 1740]

Didn't you play the whole season with 9 men due to those injuries, rose tinted glasses going on there me thinks.

No Rose rinted glasses here, just proving the myth that we were lucky/fortunate with injuries. Only Ox was out for the whole season.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Last sentence Stu, last year it was harder. Much much harder. I remember when City were going through a stage where they found it hard to break teams down. They just sat back and the flowing football of the previous year was just not there. Teams had learned from the previous " centurions" year. That was one of the reasons Pep said he bought Mahrez, to help break down teams that sit back. Think Liverpool of this year could find that " patience" is the key word.
Looks like Citys injuries have already started with Sane 😖

Well Sawtooth thinks it will be easier for everyone else now to beat us 🙄

 

[Deleted member 1740]

That's actually totally incorrect.Liverpool changed their style, tempo and tactics massively last season, compared to the season before. They were super high tempo and blew teams away in 17/18 but last season it was much more controlled and defensively sound. It was actually an quite amazing change and really impressed me about Klopp.

You've got a point to be fair but we still played the same style albeit a bit more defensive, which is what was needed.

 

[sawtooth]

Well Sawtooth thinks it will be easier for everyone else now to beat us 🙄

Easier yes but still won’t be easy.

People will obviously learn lessons on an individual and team basis. I think that’s pretty obvious. It’s probably a main reason why teams seldom win back to back league titles.

Just saying that Liverpool won’t reach 97 points or anywhere near it this year. Closer to 77 points I reckon.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Easier yes but still won’t be easy.

People will obviously learn lessons on an individual and team basis. I think that’s pretty obvious. It’s probably a main reason why teams seldom win back to back league titles.

Just saying that Liverpool won’t reach 97 points or anywhere near it this year. Closer to 77 points I reckon.

I’d take that as long as City only get 76.

Do you think City will get 98pts ?

 

[Tashyboy]

I’d take that as long as City only get 76.

Do you think City will get 98pts ?

The way some teams have strengthened in the prem. I would be happy to get 90. Quote me on that at the end of the season. Think Spurs and other have really had some good signings with the Christmas window to come. That said, I think Pep has added to the squad with both eyes on Europe.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The way some teams have strengthened in the prem. I would be happy to get 90. Quote me on that at the end of the season. Think Spurs and other have really had some good signings with the Christmas window to come. That said, I think Pep has added to the squad with both eyes on Europe.

I'm not arsed so long as we finish 1 pt above 2nd 😉

 

[Tashyboy]

I'm not arsed so long as we finish 1 pt above 2nd 😉

Al do a deal, we will finish second in the prem if you finish second in the champs league 😁👍

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Al do a deal, we will finish second in the prem if you finish second in the champs league 😁👍

Deal🤝

 

[clubchamp98]

Al do a deal, we will finish second in the prem if you finish second in the champs league 😁👍

Don’t think that’s allowed !
Would be nice though.

 

[fundy]

This cant be for real surely? wtf is going on. Newcastle twice as bad as Baku?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49299414

 

[Liverbirdie]

Semantics. The Moores fortune began from the pools, they built liverpool up to be the force they became, 50 odd years at liverpool I believe. This is all long established.

Why does it bother you? Your history is your history.

Semantics are small things, but not for the difference in words that you used,

I dont need a history lesson, I live here, dont forget.

You do realise that the main money in the Moores family was Everton's owner, don't you. In that case why wasnt Everton the dominant team in English football between 1960 and 1990?

Did you see Liverpool outspending rivals by 3 times the transfer fees? 1st million pound player - not us, massive rebuilds of the stadium, no still mainly done since Moores left. Signings from Blackpool, Scunthorpe, Motherwell, Ayr United, and many more lesser lights who we were buying from and not other European giants. Wouldnt massive Moores money have kept Keegan, Souness, Rush..........

Proof?

 

[clubchamp98]

This cant be for real surely? wtf is going on. Newcastle twice as bad as Baku?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49299414

wind up surely

 

[fundy]

wind up surely

feels like april the 1st but widely reported it seems

 

[Liverbirdie]

Leicester flouted the rules just as much as City and Chelsea when getting themselves promoted. So whilst it was a fairytale win, it could still be tainted if you wanted to look at it this way.

I'm also not saying that I like footy being a business, but quite simply it is. Your owners stopped further expansion after your supporters complained about ticket prices. They all have balance sheets.

If City and Chelsea continued to spend more than everyone else then I agree its not on. But Chelsea nowaways don't, and City in the last few windows have spent similar amounts to their rivals. Of course they needed an injection of cash otherwise the status quo would simply have remained.

All I know is that in the time I've watched football which is less than some. The last 10/15 have had more varied title winners than the previous 10/15.

Check out number of winners for 1960-1990 winners compared to 1990-2019, and thats whats more impressive for me.

Heres a mad thought, lets say Kuwait decided to buy Soton, but after 5 years of mad investment they said that they wanted 25% of their home matches to be played in Kuwait, 3 years later it was 50%, 3 years later it was all the CL games. May sound mad, but would you rule it out, totally?

I can see in 20 years time it being O-man "City" v "United" Arab Emirates, 2 state sponsored "clubs", you heard it here first. Sorry, but I'll take the sport before the business.

 

[clubchamp98]

feels like april the 1st but widely reported it seems

I can imagine they were a bit shook up after the carjacking attempt.
But they have played since, Newcastle to dangerous?
Plus they will be on the coach and plane.
Thought one of them was a tough guy ,wonder which one it is.

 

[fundy]

I can imagine they were a bit shook up after the carjacking attempt.
But they have played since, Newcastle to dangerous?
Plus they will be on the coach and plane.
Thought one of them was a tough guy ,wonder which one it is.

Reading between the lines im guessing some threats have been made and Arsenal security have advised against them playing. Crazy

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'm off the match now, hope you've all got new batteries for your sky remotes, I wouldnt like any of you to miss any action 😉

Happy New Football season, even Pauldj 🍻🍻

 

[Papas1982]

Check out number of winners for 1960-1990 winners compared to 1990-2019, and thats whats more impressive for me.

Heres a mad thought, lets say Kuwait decided to buy Soton, but after 5 years of mad investment they said that they wanted 25% of their home matches to be played in Kuwait, 3 years later it was 50%, 3 years later it was all the CL games. May sound mad, but would you rule it out, totally?

I can see in 20 years time it being O-man "City" v "United" Arab Emirates, 2 state sponsored "clubs", you heard it here first. Sorry, but I'll take the sport before the business.

Trying to use hyperbole to make a point? In answer to the question, Yes I would rule it out. The FA couldn’t even get game 39 off the ground, I don’t fear owners relocating teams to other countries. The only real case of that was Wimbledon. A far cry from the nasty oil owners.....

To point 2. I agree it should be a sport. But football now involves vast sums of money. No team can climb to the top without massive outside investment. And this is where it does look like jeolousy or at list bitterness from the teams who’ve got more competition.

If no team was allowed to spend outside their means since the prem formed. Yes I know football was around before then, but that’s when the financial change started. Imo the league would have been as bad as Scotland. It’d and arsenal battling it out, splitting championships. Then arsenal build a stadium and UTD win every year after that such was their financial clout compared to everyone else.

The ordinal point I made pages ago wasn’t that football is better now, or that it should be a business. BUT simply that it IS a business. By all means say you is the good old days, but as a club you either accept it and take on the challenge, or you turn into sawtooth.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Leicester flouted the rules just as much as City and Chelsea when getting themselves promoted. So whilst it was a fairytale win, it could still be tainted if you wanted to look at it this way.

I'm also not saying that I like footy being a business, but quite simply it is. Your owners stopped further expansion after your supporters complained about ticket prices. They all have balance sheets.

If City and Chelsea continued to spend more than everyone else then I agree its not on. But Chelsea nowaways don't, and City in the last few windows have spent similar amounts to their rivals. Of course they needed an injection of cash otherwise the status quo would simply have remained.

All I know is that in the time I've watched football which is less than some. The last 10/15 have had more varied title winners than the previous 10/15.

Is that not mainly down to FFP though ?

Chelsea it appears now are self sufficient as a club and spend what they earn but it took a good 10 years to get to that point. And it’s no surprise that they aren’t having the same impact or attracting the same level of players as they did when Roman arrived. I actually think this season Chelsea are going to surprise a few with being half forced to play some of their talented youth

And City outdid what Chelsea did in terms of spending but they now will spend what they make because ultimately they are under investigation by FFP. All over the clubs are working under FFP which for me is a better way - clubs only spending what they earn , no more Leeds , Pompey etc clubs who spent spent spent and ended up with debt up to their eyeballs.

And I thought our owners are still looking to expand they stadium