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Klopp O clock 😂😂😂😂😂
That genius - did you make that up all by your self , how cute 😂😂
Klopp O clock 😂😂😂😂😂
That genius - did you make that up all by your self , how cute 😂😂
Dan2501
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We love an over-priced/flashy winger with no end product. Look at Walcott, Bolasie, Mirallas, Lennon and now Iwobi. Although tbf Lookman is very similar, flashy skills, great at beating people but his end product was very poor last season.
You and me both. There is a lot of head scratching going on right now. Silva mustn't have fancied Lookman though. He has seen him in training, gave him the odd 20 mins but hasn't been impressed. I'm pleased with the other comings and goings but the Iwobi one 🤔🤔
sawtooth
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No it’s not bitterness it’s just how it was. Same with Leicester in 16 and Chelsea in 17, obviously very good teams both those years too but they needed that bit of luck with injuries and the rub of the green to make it happen.
Chances are things won’t play out the same way for Liverpool this year plus rivals will have learned a bit on how to play against you a bit better especially now that you haven’t changed anything or anyone from last season.
Plus will the players be up again for the fight in the same way after putting everything into it last year and still coming up short? I’m not so sure.
Orikoru
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Thought he had a bit of potential, particularly after that loan spell with RBZ where he scored a few goals. Not surprised they were happy to take him. Obviously Marco Silva didn't think so. Iwobi looks like the finished article even though he's only 23. Generally I felt Everton's window was really good. You are really lacking a CB, but perhaps the boss is showing trust in Holgate. I'm not sure Rojo was the right answer anyway. Otherwise Delph, Kean and Sidibe were excellent signings. Won't comment on Gbamin as I've never seen him play.
Orikoru
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I agree, I think the gap to City will be larger this time. Your last point especially - having had the season of their lives and still finishing 2nd, it's very hard to go out with the mentality that you need to improve upon that even more. It's bound to be demoralising. That's where maybe a new signing or two might have helped with motivation for the squad.
They did seem to have a high proportion of offside goals etc, which VAR will sort out this season as well.
Beezerk
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Does your gittishness come naturally or is it something you've had to work on from being a small child?
clubchamp98
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We had a few very poor penalties given against us as well especially in Europe.
Dan2501
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He did do well for RBL - 9 goal contributions in 11 games, but since coming back to Everton he's produced very little. Played more minutes last season than he did for RBL but contributed just 2 assists. He made 5 starts and contributed 1 goal and 1 assist and having watched him in person he was electric on the ball, fantastic at beating players but his end product was really lacking and quite frustrating to watch. He does have a lot of potential and I'm disappointed we've sold him but I don't think he's a huge loss in terms of output for the coming season and think Iwobi backs up Richarlison and Bernard better and is more likely to contribute goals and assists, but guess we'll wait and see.
As for the defence, we're definitely 1 short. Mina has been worryingly injury prone since joining us, and Holgate is still lacking in PL experience. Rojo probably wasn't the answer, but getting him in would have been better than nothing. Gutted we couldn't get Zouma across the line, the Keane and Zouma partnership was key to our success at the back-end of last year.
HomerJSimpson
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I don't think motivation will be an issue and Klopp will be pushing hard to go one step further and beat City this season. Yes teams will play differently this season against them, yes they were fortunate with injuries which may not be the case (or they may get away with it again) but did they really have more "offside" goals than anyone else?
clubchamp98
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That’s a major problem with Arsenal they don’t score late winners as they give up after 75 mins.
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Last season we played the same way as we did the season before but we added the best defence in the league to the way we played - did teams learn from the season before ? It was the same in the CL ? Did teams learn ?
Yep the personnel haven’t changed- the same personnel that did so well last season , why wouldn’t they be up for it again ? They came so close , got a taste of victory in the CL can only motivate them to go again and get over the line this time.
Our team imo is still just below City because they have that extra little bit who can come in but it’s certainly not that big a gap between as proven over the last two seasons - Klopp has moved the team forward every season , can see no reason why he won’t again. And certainly don’t see the four teams bridging that 20 point plus gap that was created.
Is there some statistical proof to back that up ? Or do all the top teams get a bit more of the rub of the green - there was also no doubt times where lack of VAR went against us
clubchamp98
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Maybe Klopp training methods are better so we don’t pick up many injuries like some teams.
To play like we do we need to be super fit.
Fans forget the luck their teams get were all the same.
But only we were lucky ,City got a few lucky ones late in the season
Orikoru
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I don't think there's a recorded database of incorrect refereeing decisions. Not one I can find anyway. I just remember a spell when Liverpool benefitted several times in the space of a couple of months. Offside goals and soft penalties after Salah's flouncing. No matter though, what's done is done, the point is VAR will make this a very different season for all teams. I for one have filled my fantasy team with penalty takers to start with.
USER1999
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I am not sure Iwobi's future is as a winger. Sure, he has been played there, but he has been played out of position, and is not really suited.
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Gittishness 😂😂😂😂
I don't think there's a recorded database of incorrect refereeing decisions. Not one I can find anyway. I just remember a spell when Liverpool benefitted several times in the space of a couple of months. Offside goals and soft penalties after Salah's flouncing. No matter though, what's done is done, the point is VAR will make this a very different season for all teams. I for one have filled my fantasy team with penalty takers to start with.
I remember after the West Ham game where we scored from an offside goal the accusation was we were having lots
https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/...cored-11-offside-league-goals-its-actually-3/
VAR will have a big change on the league - for me a very poor change
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With VAR coming in, I hope Klopp has paid all of the VAR refs or we wont be having no rub of the green or favourable decisions like all of those we had last season.
We had injuries last season, Salah,Bobby,Shaqiri, Gomez, Henderson,Milner,Matip,Kieta,Sturridge, Lallana, Ox all had spells out.
Will it be harder for City now teams have more time to workout how to beat them?
Dan2501
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Doubt it. Back to back dominant seasons and few worked out how to beat them last year despite playing the same brand of football as the season before. Can't see anything but another City title win.
Beezerk
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My only fear for City is with Kompany gone (granted he's been injured a fair bit) it leaves Walker and Stones to take up the slack, they are worth a few goals a season at least (for the opposition 😂)
