Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[fundy]

Police always get everyone out of the town centre pretty quick, they close pubs down until away fans leave much to the annoyance of landlords, especially when there’s no trouble but the beer is flowing, they then escort them to the station. There pretty on the ball at Watford.

long while since i went to Watford away, unless you count when Saracens were playing there!! Brother in law keeps trying to get me to go, hes gonna be unbearable after this result lol

 

[Papas1982]

Yeah. They have pretty much played to their max, with a bit of luck along the way. City have been sloppy and dire at times and a few unlucky moments. As a result, liverpool deserve where they are.

But, if both teams were on form, not a chance Liverpool are "miles" better than City. Not a chance. Maybe a bit better, not sure.

That's my opinion though, quoting the table wouldn't sway that opinion.

Dont worry though, Liverpool.still to win league by a mile

That can be said about pretty much any previous champions tbf. All the top teams at their best are of a similar standard, but maintaining it is what makes them so much better.

Lets take your argument and say they played twice. The chance is, the team that's been great all season will put in two good performances, the other won't.

As to luck, City have missed how many penalties. That's not bad luck, that's then bit taking advantage of their own opportunities.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Yeah. They have pretty much played to their max, with a bit of luck along the way. City have been sloppy and dire at times and a few unlucky moments. As a result, liverpool deserve where they are.

On that logic, if Norwich had scored more, conceded fewer, been less sloppy, had more luck and generally played better they’d be winning the league.

But instead, Liverpool are winning, because they’ve been miles better than the rest (all the losers, including Manchester City)

 

[Swango1980]

That can be said about pretty much any previous champions tbf. All the top teams at their best are of a similar standard, but maintaining it is what makes them so much better.

Lets take your argument and say they played twice. The chance is, the team that's been great all season will put in two good performances, the other won't.

As to luck, City have missed how many penalties. That's not bad luck, that's then bit taking advantage of their own opportunities.

To be clear. Liverpool HAVE been miles better than anyone up to now. They've been relentless. Not disputing that.

But, that doesn't make them miles better than City. If they were miles better than City, then even in a one off match the bookies would make City, at best about 6/1 to win (or something in that region, depends what you mean by miles). But, at a neutral venue, I bet the odds for a liverpool win would at best be marginally better than city's chance to win. I would think anyway.

So, it is deluded to say they are miles better than City, it is more correct to say they have performed miles better than City up to now.

 

[Kellfire]

To be clear. Liverpool HAVE been miles better than anyone up to now. They've been relentless. Not disputing that.

But, that doesn't make them miles better than City. If they were miles better than City, then even in a one off match the bookies would make City, at best about 6/1 to win (or something in that region, depends what you mean by miles). But, at a neutral venue, I bet the odds for a liverpool win would at best be marginally better than city's chance to win. I would think anyway.

So, it is deluded to say they are miles better than City, it is more correct to say they have performed miles better than City up to now.

You do know that being better is determined by their performances, right? What other measure do you propose we use? I know an idea - let’s call it a “league table” where everyone plays each other home and away...

Nah, it’ll never catch on.

 

[Swango1980]

On that logic, if Norwich had scored more, conceded fewer, been less sloppy, had more luck and generally played better they’d be winning the league.

But instead, Liverpool are winning, because they’ve been miles better than the rest (all the losers, including Manchester City)

That is a terrible counter argument, but good try anyway

 

[chrisd]

Anyone notice that the mighty Eagles won?

 

[fundy]

Anyone notice that the mighty Eagles won?

mighty? didnt watch the game then lol

 

[Papas1982]

To be clear. Liverpool HAVE been miles better than anyone up to now. They've been relentless. Not disputing that.

But, that doesn't make them miles better than City. If they were miles better than City, then even in a one off match the bookies would make City, at best about 6/1 to win (or something in that region, depends what you mean by miles). But, at a neutral venue, I bet the odds for a liverpool win would at best be marginally better than city's chance to win. I would think anyway.

So, it is deluded to say they are miles better than City, it is more correct to say they have performed miles better than City up to now.

The post you replied to had literally stated exactly that. it was never implied the were miles better than city as a team, simply they’d performed best.

 

[chrisd]

mighty? didnt watch the game then lol

I saw the utube highlights ? (7 seconds worth)

 

[fundy]

I saw the utube highlights ? (7 seconds worth)

i wont lie, the big positive was i brought in the mighty Ayew for Vardy to my fantasy so managed to find a morsel of enjoyment from an awful game

whats with the fake "local" rivalry between the two too?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

That is a terrible counter argument, but good try anyway

the proper counter to your BS is of course “if the dog hadn’t stopped to crap, it would have won the race”!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I do agree with the comment about the foot of the table taking on a very interesting twist with all the results this weekend. I still think despite their win Norwich are done but then three points from Villa up to Brighton in 15th so two from those five is hard to call

 

[4LEX]

I get what Swango1980 is saying on Liverpool and City.

The expected goals and points table puts City miles ahead on goals scored, ahead on goals conceded by 1 and also on points which is a good indicator on performance quality, rather than result. But it's all about points and Liverpool have been seriously impressive grinding out wins and deserve all the praise.

 

[chrisd]

i wont lie, the big positive was i brought in the mighty Ayew for Vardy to my fantasy so managed to find a morsel of enjoyment from an awful game

whats with the fake "local" rivalry between the two too?

Ayew for Vardy ??? I guess it worked though!

Fake rivalry? So back in the day Alan Mullery was the Brighton manager and we took on Terry Venables as manager. Mullery went to Brighton and bad mouthed Palace on tv so it all kicked off.

 

[fundy]

Ayew for Vardy ??? I guess it worked though!

Fake rivalry? So back in the day Alan Mullery was the Brighton manager and we took on Terry Venables as manager. Mullery went to Brighton and bad mouthed Palace on tv so it all kicked off.

I heard a couple of mins before the close Vardy was out injured and Ayew came out of the hat haha

 

[Deleted member 1740]

maybe Stu will self isolate for a couple of weeks now ?????????

Not a chance ?

 

[Tashyboy]

the proper counter to your BS is of course “if the dog hadn’t stopped to crap, it would have won the race”!

Am gonna use that ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Just for the record, this season's premier league is a rammel standard ( except Liverpool ) and the wins by Norwich v City and watford today etc etc etc dont mean owt and have not added to the excitement of the premier league. Glad we have cleared that up. ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Liverpool lose and the haters crawl out the woodwork.?

That was a pretty rubbish performance, struggling to remember a poorer performance from us over the last 18months or so.

Nice to see Lovren hasnt changed?