Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Shouldn’t be on the pitch!
Chelsea getting nothing tonight!
 
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Well that’s a twist - the guy who should have been sent off gets a second goal , can see this kicking off soon

Blimey have UTD brought Webb out of retirement
 

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Tbf Pete, until fergie left Utd.
There was only one season that a money club actually finished 1st above anyone but Utd.
Imagine they hadn’t come along.
utd would likely be closer to 30 league titles.

Your point is valid, depending on how your team is affected will determine your thoughts on sugar daddies. Top 4 traditionals tend to not like em and most, not all try and take moral high ground on it not being the right way.....

The rest of us actually appreciate a more even competitive league.


We'll never know but you could be right, I rarely take anything away from United's success (apart from the ref bias, of course - you couldnt ignore that), different for the other two, though.

You may have had a stronger Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, Leeds (all big clubs in their own right) and maybe even others.
 

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We'll never know but you could be right, I rarely take anything away from United's success (apart from the ref bias, of course - you couldnt ignore that), different for the other two, though.

You may have had a stronger Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton, Newcastle, Leeds (all big clubs in their own right) and maybe even others.

whilst it’s plausible those above could have been stronger. Realistically, the 10 years prior to the money clubs, arsenal were the only team to win a title with those above spending in most cases more than Utd.

I agree about the refs, all the big clubs got helped ;)
 

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They've got flippin VAR and still cant get it right ?

They did.

"The explanation from Stockley Park is that, in VAR Chris Kavanagh's view, the contact between Fred and Azpilicueta was normal, but Azpilicueta’s push on Williams was different as he put two hands on Williams' back and pushed him, which affected the defender's ability to clear the ball".

Case closed. (y)
 

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The only thing fishy tonight was the lack of red for Maguire. The rest of the decisions fine. Good to see a nice dive by Willian carded.

There's contact with Willian imo as he attempts to hurdle a left out leg, that's a foul in open play, so why not the same on the edge of the penalty area?

There was more intent and a second movement with McGuires leg than Son's, absolutely no consistency shown between those 2 incidents, not even a yellow, but it was a red all day and the game is very different then, especially as he went on to score.
 

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They did.

"The explanation from Stockley Park is that, in VAR Chris Kavanagh's view, the contact between Fred and Azpilicueta was normal, but Azpilicueta’s push on Williams was different as he put two hands on Williams' back and pushed him, which affected the defender's ability to clear the ball".

Case closed. (y)

He put 2 hands out because that's the natural thing to do when you've been pushed into someone, Taylor & Var both rubbish tonight, as McGuire should have walked!!
 

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They did.

"The explanation from Stockley Park is that, in VAR Chris Kavanagh's view, the contact between Fred and Azpilicueta was normal, but Azpilicueta’s push on Williams was different as he put two hands on Williams' back and pushed him, which affected the defender's ability to clear the ball".

Case closed. (y)

I'm no fan of either club, but believe me Slime, they did definitely not get it right!
 

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There's contact with Willian imo as he attempts to hurdle a left out leg, that's a foul in open play, so why not the same on the edge of the penalty area?

There was more intent and a second movement with McGuires leg than Son's, absolutely no consistency shown between those 2 incidents, not even a yellow, but it was a red all day and the game is very different then, especially as he went on to score.

I didnt see any contact but the fact he went down in a diving manner, made it easy for the ref. Perhaps if he watched Son, Deulofeu, Mane and Salah he’d learn how to dive properly ??
 

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They did.

"The explanation from Stockley Park is that, in VAR Chris Kavanagh's view, the contact between Fred and Azpilicueta was normal, but Azpilicueta’s push on Williams was different as he put two hands on Williams' back and pushed him, which affected the defender's ability to clear the ball".

Case closed. (y)
So like the handball rule !
A push by a defenDing player is different than a push by an attacking player!
As long as we know!:eek:
 
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Well VAR was supposed to stop the issues and ensure that the talk isn’t about poor refs but it will be after that

Maguire should have been sent off - that would have changed the game massively and he then went on and scored

The first disallowed goal - If it’s against you then you are going to applaud the decision but if you get the goal chalked off then you will feel hard done by when you see that Fred clearly pushes the player first regards of how many hands he had up - in open play that’s a foul , so it should have been a penalty imo

Second one - it’s going to be disallowed with the way they do offsides this season

UTD certainly played a lot better second half

all bunched up now - the team that goes on a little run will grab the spot but none of them have managed that this season so far
 
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