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[Deleted member 18121]

Harry Kane *chose* to fall over him. Kane easily could have got to the ball.

This is the part that bothers me most about him these days. The lad is an incredible striker and has every opportunity to be one of the best around, but he's now making bad choices about staying on his feet.... And my opinion is that this is behind coached.

I hope he cuts it out and does what he's best at..... scoring goals.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Kane initially lost balance because as the defender comes he's leaning towards him to hold him off, but Lascelles never arrives at shoulder height because he's already going to the floor that's all. There is no doubt in my mind that Kane's plan would have been to get the ball and score given that he'd not had a sniff all day - not try and win a cheap penalty when he was basically through on goal. Then Lascelles tumbles head first into his legs.

One of the oldest tricks in the book.

Forward leaning into defender so when the defender moves away forward has the opportunity to hit the deck.

Kane has been particularly adept at this for several years.

 

[Jensen]

Seen it again and I agree with this - Kane made sure by moving into the player away from the ball that he was going to be hit and fall over - he does it very well and gets plenty of pens over the season for it

Not to mention Mo 😂😂😂

 

[Orikoru]

One of the oldest tricks in the book.

Forward leaning into defender so when the defender moves away forward has the opportunity to hit the deck.

Kane has been particularly adept at this for several years.

Except he didn't have to do any of that because Lascelles went shoulder-first through his bloody legs.

 

[Jensen]

Except he didn't have to do any of that because Lascelles went shoulder-first through his bloody legs.

Banging head against a wall springs to mind 👍

 

[MegaSteve]

With Mike Dean on the whistle any kind of decision is possible other than a consistent one...

As a Gooner I was well happy with his decision making yesterday though 😉...

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Just seen some highlights from sundays games, with all the cryarsing on here I expected Kane's non penalty to be clear cut. The only thing that was clear cut about it was how he tried to con the ref, he should've stayed on his feet. I'm not a lip reading expert unlike a few on here but 1 of Poch's assistants showed him a replay of the incident and I'm sure Poch said no pen.


Moura missing a tap in too 😂

How the heck did Ederson not see red for that late,High and dangerous tackle?

 

[PJ87]

Except he didn't have to do any of that because Lascelles went shoulder-first through his bloody legs.

For VAR to work , fans, players and pundits all need to accept its decisions

VAR has spoken. No pen

May not understand but respect the decision

The reason we need VAR is because players are cheats who con the ref and don’t respect the decisions

Let’s not make the same mistake twice

 

[Tashyboy]

You obviously haven't played football if you think. He leans slightly towards the player to hold him off with his strength - obviously he's expecting him to come up to him shoulder to shoulder. But Lascelles has already started to stumble to the ground at this point, before wiping through both his legs.

I'll repeat something I said earlier that a lot of people don't seem to understand. Even if a player is 'looking for' a penalty, let's say he's waiting and anticipating contact from the defender, if they fall for it and make that contact it's still a penalty. There's no law in the game that says "oh the attacker wanted him to foul him there, therefore it's no longer a foul when he hacked him onto the floor". 'Looking for it' is a completely irrelevant phrase and has no basis in the rules.

If they cannot get anything as simple as the penalty decision right in the City v Bournemouth game. Then the game has gone tits up. The penalty decision re Kane. If it had been given. The question would of been asked " what was the defender doing there".
My grief with VAR is, you see numerous replays on the box, but none at the game. If you did see some of the VAR replays, there would be a riot. Not showing them at games tells me they are still screwing up with VAR decisions..

 

[Tashyboy]

For VAR to work , fans, players and pundits all need to accept its decisions. What even when the decisions are still wrong.

VAR has spoken. No pen. VAR was not wrong, the people looking at the replays were wrong

May not understand but respect the decision. Understand VAR and decisions and rules are wrong, eg handball in penalty box

The reason we need VAR is because players are cheats who con the ref and don’t respect the decisions. Not all players are cheats. Did Silva cheat. VAR was brought in to eradicate wrong decisions, irrespective players cheated or not

Let’s not make the same mistake twice? As much as I believe in VAR, Plenty of wrong decisions have been made this year

 

[Deleted member 1740]

If they cannot get anything as simple as the penalty decision right in the City v Bournemouth game. Then the game has gone tits up. The penalty decision re Kane. If it had been given. The question would of been asked " what was the defender doing there".
My grief with VAR is, you see numerous replaces on the box, but none at the game. If you did see some of the VAR replays, there would be a riot. Not showing them at games tells me they are still screwing up with VAR decisions..

VAR isnt fit for purpose in football.

Football is too quick for VAR.

The standard of PL referees is atrocious, so with those 3 issues its impossible to improve the game no matter how much cash they throw at it.

 

[Bazz]

Not sure what “anti football” is but for them it’s all about staying in the Prem and if that means being solid and robust grinding out the wins then fair play to them.

Wait until they cost you points in your title chase when they take 30 seconds minimum per goal kick and throw in.

 

[PJ87]

The VAR disallowed goal against spurs was 100% correct

The law of the game on handballs was changed. It correctly applied the new law

The problem was with the law of the game not VAR

 

[Bazz]

The VAR disallowed goal against spurs was 100% correct

The law of the game on handballs was changed. It correctly applied the new law

The problem was with the law of the game not VAR

Which was the same reason we had a goal disallowed for against Leicester.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Wait until they cost you points in your title chase when they take 30 seconds minimum per goal kick and throw in.

If we drop points it won’t be because of time wasting - it will be because we either didn’t create or didn’t take chances. The game is 90mins long plus stoppage time.

 

[Bazz]

If we drop points it won’t be because of time wasting - it will be because we either didn’t create or didn’t take chances. The game is 90mins long plus stoppage time.

And what if the referee doesn't do his job and add it on?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And what if the referee doesn't do his job and add it on?

Again there is still 90mins for the team to score - if you don’t break the team down within that time then what does an extra couple of mins make - you scored in 7 mins added on time , out of the 17 shots you had on goal you had 2 on target including the penalty - maybe the reason you didn’t get all three points is because you couldn’t hit the target

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Wait until they cost you points in your title chase when they take 30 seconds minimum per goal kick and throw in.

In fairness we had a player break his leg by a burnley players strong tackling last season.

 

[Bazz]

Again there is still 90mins for the team to score - if you don’t break the team down within that time then what does an extra couple of mins make - you scored in 7 mins added on time , out of the 17 shots you had on goal you had 2 on target including the penalty - maybe the reason you didn’t get all three points is because you couldn’t hit the target

Yeah you're right, sorry. As you were.

 

[Bazz]

In fairness we had a player break his leg by a burnley players strong tackling last season.

Got no issue with strong tackling, long balls etc. It's not having the ball in play I struggle with.