Playing Handicap Query

[EastAngler]

Have recently joined my first 18 hole course and have taken part in a couple of recent competitions.

My handicap index at the time of the first, a stableford comp, was 29 which gives me a CH of 31 for the tees in use.

In comps there is an upper limit on the CH of 28 which is equivalent to a 26.2 handicap index.

At 95% of the 28 upper limit I received 27 shots (26.6 rounded up).

The score I submitted for this round cut my HI to 28.7.

In today's competition, medal format off the same tees I only received 26 shots at the 95% adjusted level.

This has left me confused as even though my HI has reduced by 0.2 it is still above the 26.2 HI that equates to a maximum 28 CH.

Does anyone have an explanation please?


BTW - Whether I got 26 or 27 shots today makes no difference to where I finished so there is no potential gain for me but I'm just at a loss to make sense of it.


Thanks

 

[rulefan]

Have you seen Handicapping Rule 5.2a for fewer than 20 scores?
Further. The comp limit is only for the comp results, for handicap calculations your handicap as fully calculated is used.

 

[EastAngler]

Have you seen Handicapping Rule 5.2a for fewer than 20 scores?
Further. The comp limit is only for the comp results, for handicap calculations your handicap as fully calculated is used.

Not sure what Rule 5.2 says but from the way I read your comment I don't think it applies as I have way more than 20 scores on my record and have had a HI for the last 2 years.

My query was about why the two handicaps used in the two competitions were different even though they are both theoretically 95% of the 28 maximum limit that is imposed.

 

[wjemather]

Are these competitions mixed tee/mixed gender? If so there is an adjustment for medal play that could explain the difference (there is no adjustment in Stableford).

 

[NearHull]

I think this may be a mixture of machine calculations for one competition and rounding up for the other to determine PH. My brain is still half asleep and not yet capable of proving it.

 

[EastAngler]

Are these competitions mixed tee/mixed gender? If so there is an adjustment for medal play that could explain the difference (there is no adjustment in Stableford).

No, they were both Mens comps

 

[wjemather]

No, they were both Mens comps

Men's comps can be mixed tee, and even if everyone is playing from just one tee, if it's setup in the software with multiple tees, the adjustment will apply.

 

[jim8flog]

If it helps ( I have not done any maths for you)

If the club is applying a limit to handicaps for competition winning purposes that limit does not apply to handicap adjustments and neither does the 95%.
Handicap adjustments are based upon 100% of your full handicap.

 

[EastAngler]

If it helps ( I have not done any maths for you)

If the club is applying a limit to handicaps for competition winning purposes that limit does not apply to handicap adjustments and neither does the 95%.
Handicap adjustments are based upon 100% of your full handicap.

Thanks.

I get that but can't workout how a PH - that is 95% of the 28 upper limit CH - is 27 one day and 26 a week or so later.

Spoke to the club pro and he couldn't understand or explain it either.

 

[irip]

Thanks.

I get that but can't workout how a PH - that is 95% of the 28 upper limit CH - is 27 one day and 26 a week or so later.

Spoke to the club pro and he couldn't understand or explain it either.

Is this done manually or on a computer?
Have you asked the handicap committee?

 

[EastAngler]

Is this done manually or on a computer?
Have you asked the handicap committee?

By computer from what I was told.

I haven't asked the committee, seems a bit of a minor issue to bother them with but might do that.

 

[irip]

By computer from what I was told.

I haven't asked the committee, seems a bit of a minor issue to bother them with but might do that.

I thought if manually it could be human error.
I would politely email the handicap committee at least you should get a response,
If it’s an error it’s best to get it fixed before it happens to someone who may of otherwise won something.
If not and it’s correct you will at least know why and can also let us know