ger147
Tour Winner
This new Ping standard length is 44, the same as the X2Hot 2 Deep. The new 3 Deep is 43.5 so no need to cut it.
Ping go "Frankenwood"..
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This new Ping standard length is 44, the same as the X2Hot 2 Deep. The new 3 Deep is 43.5 so no need to cut it.
I had a go with the Callaway ballz deep when it came out and found it OK to hit off both deck and tee, went as far as my driver.
The only problem i see with it is its small head, if you can't hit the ball properly with a large headed driver, how can you think you will be more consistant with a small head???
The only problem i see with it is its small head, if you can't hit the ball properly with a large headed driver, how can you think you will be more consistant with a small head???
jimbob.someroo
Journeyman Pro
Only playing devils advocate, but assuming this was to replace a driver and a fairway wood at £250 & £150 then surely it's value for money ...
Seems to be well off the mark though price wise. Same with their Rapture driving iron - was interested to have a go but there aren't as many knocking around full stop so even the second hand ones are more expensive than most other manufacturers offerings.
Seems to be well off the mark though price wise. Same with their Rapture driving iron - was interested to have a go but there aren't as many knocking around full stop so even the second hand ones are more expensive than most other manufacturers offerings.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Opposite for me Patrick, cant hit with the bigger head and prefer the smaller more workable head (and shorter shaft) but still having lower loft and less spin. I think its a small market these are targetting as you say most will be better suited by a standard driver (albeit possibly with the shaft cut down a little)
I to prefer a smaller head, esp on a fairway wood. from what ive seen i prev posts you are prob a good ball striker
But you will get guys who arn't getting these things thinking, i can get away with one of these type clubs if they can't hit a driver.
The thing is if you can't it a small round thing very well with a a big head how do you expect to hit it with something a quarter its size with the same shaft length?
ger147
Tour Winner
It's not the same shaft length tho'. As an example, the new X2 Hot 3 Deep is 43.5in as standard. The new X2 Hot Driver is 46in standard.
Baldy Bouncer
Blackballed
Ridiculous price for a 3 wood ffs:angry:
bluewolf
Money List Winner
The size of the clubhead isn't the whole story though is it? Over the last few weeks I've struggled with the driver, but the 3 wood has been a real weapon. The shorter shaft, coupled with the lighter head appears to have given me more control. And the distance has been a real eye opener. I think I've lost about 10 yards on a good hit, but am having a lot more good hits with the 3 wood. I can't explain why it's working, but I know that it is...
RobertB
Assistant Pro
Us middle aged recognised this new fangled thing as effectively a Brassie.
My point was that the shaft in these franken woods is about the same as a normal driver.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
My Speedline Fast 12 13.5 degree 3 wood has a 43.5" shaft which is 1.5" shorter than the same model driver. Although, in all fairness, the 15 degree model has a 43" shaft. So there is a bit of extra length, but not enough to make it comparable with a driver shaft..
ger147
Tour Winner
Not the same as the drivers folks are buying nowadays e.g. TM SLDR is 45.5, Ping G25 is 45.75, X2 Hot 46 etc.
I do understand your point but modern drivers are getting longer and longer as standard and therefore more difficult to control for the average high handicapper.
the last TM driver i had was an R7 and i think that had a 43 shaft in it from Memory and last Mizuno was 44 i think.
Trouble with the small head, is on days i can't hit a cows arse with a banjo
thats what put me off the Ballz deep, pluse it went the dame distance as my driver. so then you drop the driver and have to get something else to fill the gap.I suppose that the easiest way to increase distance is to keep putting longer shafts in things, which from what you are saying is standard across manufacturers
Foxholer
Blackballed
and the Marketing B/S one too!
It's still a Brassie on Steroids though. Loft may be same, but Head size makes the difference!
I enjoyed using a 'Tour Smoothie' TM300 13* on links, but the head looked a lot smaller - ans Steel too. Pro mate caved the face in last year!
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fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
the last TM driver i had was an R7 and i think that had a 43 shaft in it from Memory and last Mizuno was 44 i think.
Trouble with the small head, is on days i can't hit a cows arse with a banjo
I suppose that the easiest way to increase distance is to keep putting longer shafts in things, which from what you are saying is standard across manufacturers
Have to say Im amazed none of the manufacturers have gone down the marketing route of "straightest driver" and putting a 41 or 42 inch shaft in their normal head and then reweighting (look at me giving them ideas lol) which actually would probably be the best combination for a large proportion of club golfers. But it seems distance sells!
ger147
Tour Winner
the last TM driver i had was an R7 and i think that had a 43 shaft in it from Memory and last Mizuno was 44 i think.
Trouble with the small head, is on days i can't hit a cows arse with a banjo
I suppose that the easiest way to increase distance is to keep putting longer shafts in things, which from what you are saying is standard across manufacturers
Spot on with the longer and longer shafts. Standard graphite driver shafts were 44in not that long ago. It's now 45in but from memory, only the Titleist 913 D2/3 is 45in as standard amongst modern drivers, pretty much everything else is longer. "Standard" seems to be going out of the window as golf swing robots don't have off days
