PC turns his back on RC who will be next.

[HomerJSimpson]

Clearly making his wife and family his priority http://www.golfpunkhq.com/news/article/paul-casey-not-back-in and so you can see his train of thought. I do wonder if he plays well and can see a place on the team awaiting whether he'll have a change of heart. I guess it comes down to how much he wants to upset the domestic peace

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not disagreeing or sticking up for Casey, not neccesarily correct when you say for Europe it's never about the 12 individual best players, the fact the Captain only gets to choose his picks, he has no choice on the rest!
It's then the ability of the Captain to mould a team and not all get it right.
Is it possible that we could have
a European player at the top of the world rankings and not qualify for the Ryder Cup in future years.
As you say everybody knows the eligibility criteria at the beginning so can have no complaints if they don't make the 12.

And how many times has a captain picked someone way down on the rankings

And Europe seem to get it right when looking at the recent Ryder Cups - the only one who didn't was Faldo and IMO that was down to his own failings

 

[Deleted member 16999]

and how many times has a captain picked someone way down on the rankings

and europe seem to get it right when looking at the recent ryder cups - the only one who didn't was faldo and imo that was down to his own failings

ok 👍

 

[Imurg]

It is the PGA Tour v the European Tour. The US team is administered by the PGA of America, the European team is a joint venture between the European Tour, the PGA of GB&I and the PGA of Europe.

Unlike footballers golfers can play on as many tours as they like at the same time.

Technically it is but in reality it isn't.
It's USA vs Some of Europe
The vast majority of US players play over there so the US is, basically, The PGA Tour.
But in Europe its different.
You have to be a member of the European Tour
But if you're not European you can't play (Grace,Els,Oosty etc)
If it was, genuinely, the ET vs PGA then these players would have been available.
But because they're not European, they're not.
So it really is Europe vs USA.
And if its Europe vs USA, why can't players like Casey, Knox, Blixt, who ply their trade mostly in US, play for Europe..? They're European aren't they?
And it is Europe vs USA
Isn't it..?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do the US players also not have to be members of their relevant tour ?

If changes were made where you didnt have to be a member of the ET to play RC then how quickly would they all chuck in membership ?

To keep their tour card they need to play 5 events - thats all , just 5 golf events spread through 50 weeks.

If they cant be bothered to play just the 5 events then i wouldnt want them to be a part of the team

 

[Tongo]

Technically it is but in reality it isn't.
It's USA vs Some of Europe
The vast majority of US players play over there so the US is, basically, The PGA Tour.
But in Europe its different.
You have to be a member of the European Tour
But if you're not European you can't play (Grace,Els,Oosty etc)
If it was, genuinely, the ET vs PGA then these players would have been available.
But because they're not European, they're not.
So it really is Europe vs USA.
And if its Europe vs USA, why can't players like Casey, Knox, Blixt, who ply their trade mostly in US, play for Europe..? They're European aren't they?
And it is Europe vs USA
Isn't it..?

The relevant teams are administered by the European Tour (and associated PGA's) and the PGA of America and you have to be a member to qualify for the respective team. Membership isnt really an issue for the US as every player likely to qualify for the team is on the PGA Tour and that isn't likely to change anytime soon.

I would have thought that everyone understood that you needed to be European or American to qualify for the respective teams.

 

[Imurg]

I would have thought that everyone understood that you needed to be European or American to qualify for the respective teams.

Which makes it Europe vs USA not Tour vs Tour
It's pedantic, I know, but, in reality, the qualification rules are a mess.

 

[Tongo]

Which makes it Europe vs USA not Tour vs Tour
It's pedantic, I know, but, in reality, the qualification rules are a mess.

In essence its the European members of the European tour v the US members of the PGA Tour. (basically the USA!)

Casey is the first player where this could be an issue. It could have been an issue with Carl Petterson a few years back but he never really played well enough to be considered / theoretically qualify for the European team.

 

[Hacker Khan]

It is such a cash cow for the European Tour that they will make the qualification criteria as easy as possible so the top European players to qualify. The last thing they want is for a box office draw to not play. Yes they can try and insist European players play so many events where ever, but as soon as someone like Rory decides he doesn't want to play so much in Europe they will change the qualifying criteria quickly enough.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The ET needs to protect itself as best as it can. I have no problem with that and as LP has pointed out, 5 events a year to help protect the tour which helped you start out in the game is not asking too much.

 

[Norrin Radd]

im going to be chanting euro tour euro tour when the rc is played now

the euro tour has it seems made life quite a lot easier than it wa and if someone dosent want to play its up to them .personally i saddened by CASEY pulling out buts its his decision ,and he wont bleat anymore about it im sure .

 

[Tongo]

im going to be chanting euro tour euro tour when the rc is played now

the euro tour has it seems made life quite a lot easier than it wa and if someone dosent want to play its up to them .personally i saddened by CASEY pulling out buts its his decision ,and he wont bleat anymore about it im sure .

But they still should be vilified as if they are little better than a common criminal for such behaviour!

 

[Jacko_G]

I watched him rip in to the marshalls at Wentworth for no reason - total knob and no loss imo to the Ryder Cup

So on one instance you decide he's a knob??? Maybe he thought the marshal was a knob!

A man who wants to be close to his family is not a knob in my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So on one instance you decide he's a knob??? Maybe he thought the marshal was a knob!

A man who wants to be close to his family is not a knob in my opinion.

I wonder why 2 years ago Casey was at the forefront of golfers wanting more events in England ? The being close to his family in Arizona is a smokescreen - whilst playing in the US he is also away from his family a lot of time - he still has the hump about 2010.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Have never liked Casey.
He can stay in the States as far as I'm concerned.

I stopped liking him after he hit my heavily pregnant daughter on the back with a surprise socket at Carnoustie.

[actually he was quite nice about it!]

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I wonder why 2 years ago Casey was at the forefront of golfers wanting more events in England ? The being close to his family in Arizona is a smokescreen - whilst playing in the US he is also away from his family a lot of time - he still has the hump about 2010.

Totally disagree. He's made it abundantly clear his family are now at the forefront of his scheduling and he's wanting to stay in the US to be with them as much as he can. The US has decent transport hubs and so it'll surely be easier to get back from tournaments quicker and easier to spend time with them. 2010 has nothing to do with it

 

[Hobbit]

Totally disagree. He's made it abundantly clear his family are now at the forefront of his scheduling and he's wanting to stay in the US to be with them as much as he can. The US has decent transport hubs and so it'll surely be easier to get back from tournaments quicker and easier to spend time with them. 2010 has nothing to do with it

From where he lives in the US to many major cities is no different from London to those cities, give or take an hour at the most. Have a Google Martin and you'd be surprised. Yes there's the time zone aspect but its a weak excuse really.