PC or what??

Hacker Khan said:
I will reiterate this is not a directive that has come down from the government and I suspect there is no particular desire from teaching unions to let them have phones at all times either. It will be a call from the governing body who will approve the safeguarding policy.
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I understand it's from "the safeguarding team" who are currently writing a policy!
 
Baldy Bouncer said:
He has more than one?........................you have my deepest sympathies Chrisd;)
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Hey, nothing wrong with a bit of polygamy. Even a bit of wife swapping is fine by me, I finally convinced the wife to give it a try last weekend, swapped her for a new 3 wood. Be dum tish.
 
It wasn't long ago when people had to use a red cubicle (telephone box) in the street to make phone calls, we managed alright then so why can't we mange without a phone for a few hours a day now?
 
full_throttle said:
It wasn't long ago when people had to use a red cubicle (telephone box) in the street to make phone calls, we managed alright then so why can't we mange without a phone for a few hours a day now?
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Because the world has moved on as it always will do
 
On some of my work sites you are not allowed to take even your work phone past the reception/security desk. You leave it in your car or at reception. No one really expects any of us to create a deliberate security breach - but it is simple risk mitigation. You just accept that you can't be contacted on mobile phone whilst in the building. If you want to check for incoming calls you leave the building check your phone and go back in.

So not really a problem for school staff I'd say.

As for the school children. As another poster - my children's school allowed the children to have their phone on them but if they use it it is confiscated until the end of the day.
 
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Hobbit said:
How on earth can you trust a teacher to teach, for them to sit next to a pupil that's struggling, or to keep one back in detention(do they still have detention?) but not trust them with their mobile phone?

Some really educated thinking there by the H. Master...
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Indeed; in fact, why didn't he just sack all the staff, that way the children won't be in any danger from them at all……… :rolleyes:

The world truly has gone mad.
 
GB
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
On some of my work sites you are not allowed to take even your work phone past the reception/security desk. You leave it in your car or at reception. No one really expects any of us to create a deliberate security breach - but it is simple risk mitigation. You just accept that you can't be contacted whilst in the building. If you want to check for incoming calls you leave the building check your phone and go back in. Not really a problem.
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I can understand that there are work environs that stop you having your phone, or maybe wallet or perhaps alcohol etc etc but my argument is that to ensure that a repeat of the Vanessa George situation doesn't happen again that everyone is treated as though they are potentially a vile criminal. It's typical, for me, of the over reaction that one off incidents bring these days.
 
chrisd said:
Spot on BIM spot on!
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Nice to see they acted so quickly Chris; Vanessa George was sentenced to on 15th December 2009;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Plymouth_child_abuse_case

or have they now acted because she's due out. I don't believe in knee-jerk reactions but well over 5 years to act and then they come up with this pig's ear? Jeez.

Doubtless the great and the good will give themselves a congratulatory pat on the back, someone will get a promotion out of it, the honest staff will hand their phones in and the paedophiles will continue to use these items;

http://www.eyetek.co.uk/hidden-camera-and-recorder-1

https://www.spycatcheronline.co.uk/covert-secret-cameras.html

You couldn't make it up.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Nice to see they acted so quickly Chris; Vanessa George was sentenced to on 15th December 2009;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Plymouth_child_abuse_case

or have they now acted because she's due out. I don't believe in knee-jerk reactions but well over 5 years to act and then they come up with this pig's ear? Jeez.

Doubtless the great and the good will give themselves a congratulatory pat on the back, someone will get a promotion out of it, the honest staff will hand their phones in and the paedophiles will continue to use these items;

http://www.eyetek.co.uk/hidden-camera-and-recorder-1

https://www.spycatcheronline.co.uk/covert-secret-cameras.html

You couldn't make it up.
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I can't add anything to what you say Blue
 
If they did this at The Boy's school they would have a crate(s) with upward of 1000 devices in it.
The chances of losing yours is immeasurable and equal to the number of buses that will be missed.
Sometimes you do wonder which planet some people are currently in orbit around..
 
Imurg said:
If they did this at The Boy's school they would have a crate(s) with upward of 1000 devices in it.
The chances of losing yours is immeasurable and equal to the number of buses that will be missed.
Sometimes you do wonder which planet some people are currently in orbit around..
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Perhaps everyone should ask for a receipt for theirs
 
chrisd said:
GB

I can understand that there are work environs that stop you having your phone, or maybe wallet or perhaps alcohol etc etc but my argument is that to ensure that a repeat of the Vanessa George situation doesn't happen again that everyone is treated as though they are potentially a vile criminal. It's typical, for me, of the over reaction that one off incidents bring these days.
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It is not treating everyone as a vile criminal. They have decided to do this as one way of reducing the risk of a teacher taking pictures of a young child. It is not a specific reaction to a specific case, there has been many cases of child sexual exploitation before this case and have been many since and unfortunately will be in the future. Yes they are luckily very few and far between, but it does happen. And in this case it is clear that they have weighed up the risks of this happening against the risks of a teacher not being able to access their phone all day and decided that it is not worth the risk.

I am not specifically for or against their decision, but the Daily Mail readers (yes, I know, there I go again, blaming The Daily Mail) reaction of 'its political correctness gone mad' is missing a lot of context and background to this very sensitive subject.
 
Yyt
Hacker Khan said:
It is not treating everyone as a vile criminal. They have decided to do this as one way of reducing the risk of a teacher taking pictures of a young child. It is not a specific reaction to a specific case, there has been many cases of child sexual exploitation before this case and have been many since. Yes they are luckily very few and far between, but it does happen. And in this case it is clear that they have weighed up the risks of this happening against the risks of a teacher not being able to access their phone all day and decided that it is not worth the risk.

I am not specifically for or against their decision, but the Daily Mail readers (yes I know there I go again) reaction of 'its political correctness gone mad' is missing a lot of context and background to this very sensitive subject.
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My wife takes her phone in and leave sit in her locker but I guess that won't suffice the new rules. I do not feel that the solution is a measured response to the perceived risk, as I said in my op many people are killed with knives but they are not banned totally!
 
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