Pampered Pro's get spoiled again!

[thecraw]

Just watching the Italian Open and they are playing lift, clean and place on the fairways all because of the overnight rain.

Why are they not adhering to the rules of golf and dropping the ball within one club length of the nearest point of relief?????

Ground that is merely wet, spongy, mushy or muddy is not casual water. There must be an accumulation of water above ground that is visible before or after the stance is taken. I find it incredible to believe that EVERY fairway at the Italian Open is that bad!

I also find it quite sad that the pro's are pampered so much that the European Tour is prepared to bend the rules of golf to suit the Tour. Is it any wonder that so many club players get rules wrong when they clearly don't apply to the big boys, or they only apply when it suits them.

Pathetic really!

 

[john0]

feel better now?

 

[thecraw]

feel better now?

Would you be allowed to play lift, clean and place in your monthly club medal because of overnight rain?

You like me and every other club golfer would take relief under casual water.

 

[bobmac]

Maybe it's to save time.
Can you imagine the players calling a referee every time they wanted a drop from casual water. It would take hours.

 

[freddielong]

To be fair it doesn't really make a difference the whole field is playing the same rules there is no handicap adjustments,and if it helps scoreing then its only the spectators and TV audience that will benefit.

I am sure you could find something actually worth moaning about to moan about if you put your mind to it

 

[thecraw]

You don't need a referee to get relief from casual water, agree it with your partners, drop at nearest point of relief within one club length. Easy peasy lemon squeezy!

 

[john0]

In Craw's defense im sure (well hope) that Pro golfers would be able to take relief from casual water without having to call a referee in

 

[chrisd]

You don't need a referee to get relief from casual water, agree it with your partners, drop at nearest point of relief within one club length. Easy peasy lemon squeezy!

Agreed ! Except they always get a ruling as it's binding, whereas if they do it themselves and get it wrong they end up d/q'd

Chris

 

[bobmac]

You don't need a referee to get relief from casual water, agree it with your partners, drop at nearest point of relief within one club length. Easy peasy lemon squeezy!

Agreed ! Except they always get a ruling as it's binding, whereas if they do it themselves and get it wrong they end up d/q'd

Chris

Exactly

 

[thecraw]

How can you get it wrong?

You have to agree with your partners where you take relief. If the three of them cant decide is its nearer or not then there are problems.

 

[chrisd]

How can you get it wrong?

You have to agree with your partners where you take relief. If the three of them cant decide is its nearer or not then there are problems.

Agreed

Until someone watching on tv, phones in and says its been dropped half a millimetre in the wrong place !


Chris

 

[thecraw]

Like Harrington on the tee you'll never prove it, if it was agreed with his playing partners its simple.

 

[Robobum]

I've had it at county comps, condition put in purely for the day or even on a particularly soggy hole.

The object is to find the best golfer over 4 rounds not the one lucky enough to avoid soggy lies and mud balls.

If it's casual water they will take that relief and then prefer their lie. They use a club, I'd think, as it is a physical measure, it is sometimes a scorecard's width, anything the comp committee wants to make it......yard of ale??

R&A

 

[bluewolf]

maybe they're concerned that when the ball was dropped, it would semi plug again. requiring another drop. Eventually you would end up back at the tee!!! Would be a long round eh?

 

[thecraw]

Drop it twice then place. Simples. Pro's are spoiled.

 

[Oddsocks]

Drop it twice then place. Simples. Pro's are spoiled.

true, but the again this sport has so many niggling little rules, couple that with the fact that any monkey with a TV can call an infringement of the rule in by email/net/telephone etc and it was no doubt the quickest clearest way to play the comp round along with keeping the TV audience.

That said craw im totally behind your thinking, them boys are meant to be the best in the world, and as such should be able to hit a ball from a wet fairway

Bunch of friggin pansies!

 

[Grumps]

Mayb the sponsors want it that way so the clean ball logo will face the camera at every shot .
A wee backhander from Titleist to the tour ?

 

[G_Mulligan]

would you really prefer watching mud bals fly left and right all weekend like at Bethpage a couple of years ago? I bet back then there were loads of people on saying "this is stupid let them lift, clean, and place I want to watch some golf."

 

[bluewolf]

Stop talking sense man. This is an Internet forum and people need to moan!!!!!!

 

[drawboy]

I'm 110% behind Craw on this I'm fed up of seeing pro's getting relief from virtually anywhere on the course. The ref's just seem to capitulate and let them have their way. Play to the rule book, casual water and you get a drop, no casual water and play the ball as it lies, that is all you need