P&O

[Tashyboy]

I'm assuming the word came down from their Saudi owners. Human rights don't count for much over there.

Unfortunately they are based in the UAE, a different country to Saudi, but I know what you mean.

 

[IanM]

Anyone Emailed the Tour to express their disgust yet?

I had an email from them this morning selling something. They got a snotty reply and a request to remove me from the mailing lists

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Not supporting P&O at all but technically they are not making anyone redundant. If the job still exists to be given to an agency worked then the position has not been made redundant. From what I read, they have simply sacked everyone. If they have givne the correct contractual notice, they may not have done anything wrong so far as emplyment law is concerned.

This must change.

After receiving all that furlough money, they should be made to pay it all back.

Fire and rehire should be outlawed.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

yes, this was mentioned on the news last night, no doubt the Saudis will threaten to pull the funding for the freeports if the UK govt cracks down on P&O.

More like when.

Now is the time for this lot in charge to prove what theyre actually about. Build back better?

 

[GB72]

This must change.

After receiving all that furlough money, they should be made to pay it all back.

Fire and rehire should be outlawed.

Totally agree. Apologies if others read otherwise but I in no way support the action taken and just gave a little insight from my admitedly short time in employment.

 

[phillarrow]

This has got to be one of the worst offences against workers ever. Where possible people should refuse to use this dispicable company ever again.

Yep! They're on my blacklist now. Absolutely disgusting greed shameless behaviour.
I wonder if their CEO took a hefty pay cut before they laid off these people. ??

 

[Tashyboy]

Anyone Emailed the Tour to express their disgust yet?

I had an email from them this morning selling something. They got a snotty reply and a request to remove me from the mailing lists

Yup they tried flogging me tournament tickets. Ave emailed and told them to shove it. Also unsubscribed. Thanks for the heads up?

 

[chrisd]

I assumed that normal unfair dismissal rules would apply to any worker with more than 2 years service, but I was told that the employment was under Jersey law and this will not apply .

 

[chrisd]

As others have pointed out, it wouldn’t be a redundancy situation if the jobs still existed.

Back when I've been involved with redundancy I understood that it's not the job that's redundant its the the person , the job can still exist but you may not require so many staff to undertake the work.

Replacing them with outside staff is, of course, a wholly different matter

 

[Ethan]

This has happened for 2 reasons. One is a deliberate political choice (Redacted) and the other is the weakening of employment legislation and unions, so I guess that is too. I am sure many (redacted)s will feign shock and disgust, and many crocodile tears will be shed.

 

[Mudball]

Worker rights are slowly (or quickly) getting eroded in the UK. We now have free rein to do this. So expect a few more of this.
Despite that, the scale of this is staggering.. As someone said, all will be forgotten in a few weeks when cheap ferry deals come around. Does anyone remember Carillion?

 

[IanM]

Worker rights are slowly (or quickly) getting eroded in the UK. We now have free rein to do this. So expect a few more of this.
Despite that, the scale of this is staggering.. As someone said, all will be forgotten in a few weeks when cheap ferry deals come around. Does anyone remember Carillion?

As I understand it, Uk employment laws are at not at work here or it would be illegal. But I've emailed a shipping contact for clarification.

Which employee protection laws do you think have been repealed recently?

I don't expect any cheap ferry deals as a result, this was pure cost cutting.

 

[chico]

Shame on anyone who travels with P & O ever again. This is like the last 150 years of workers rights have just disappeared overnight.

 

[rulefan]

I wonder if this had anything to do with it?
P&O Ferries Holdings lost £38.82m in 2019 and in 2020, the year during which COVID-19 first struck, it lost a further £85.95m. The accounts for 2021 have yet to be formally filed but the company said on Thursday that losses had increased to £100m during the latest year.
I understand the RMT were demanding a pay rise but that may be a rumour.
Incidentally the cruise line (P&O Cruises) is unaffected by the developments as it is a separate business owned by Carnival UK.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Totally agree. Apologies if others read otherwise but I in no way support the action taken and just gave a little insight from my admitedly short time in employment.

No need to apologise. I like it when people bring knowledge and experience to threads instead of links to google and Twitter.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I wonder if this had anything to do with it?
P&O Ferries Holdings lost £38.82m in 2019 and in 2020, the year during which COVID-19 first struck, it lost a further £85.95m. The accounts for 2021 have yet to be formally filed but the company said on Thursday that losses had increased to £100m during the latest year.
I understand the RMT were demanding a pay rise but that may be a rumour.
Incidentally the cruise line (P&O Cruises) is unaffected by the developments as it is a separate business owned by Carnival UK.

I wonder how much business P & O Cruises might lose as a consequence of people thinking they are part of the same company? Have to be honest and say I would have thought they were without your post.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I fail to see why we need an Arab run company to run our ports......isn't us controlling our infrastructure etc what Boris said would happen?

P&O can swing as far as I am concerned. I'd rather give my money to the French for the Tunnel than P&O now.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

I fail to see why we need an Arab run company to run our ports......isn't us controlling our infrastructure etc what Boris said would happen?

P&O can swing as far as I am concerned. I'd rather give my money to the French for the Tunnel than P&O now.

Our infrastructure has been for sale for years. Bloody awful decision decades ago but it's now the norm

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Our infrastructure has been for sale for years. Bloody awful decision decades ago but it's now the norm

I don't disagree one bit....

 

[Foxholer]

I wonder if this had anything to do with it?
P&O Ferries Holdings lost £38.82m in 2019 and in 2020, the year during which COVID-19 first struck, it lost a further £85.95m. The accounts for 2021 have yet to be formally filed but the company said on Thursday that losses had increased to £100m during the latest year.
I understand the RMT were demanding a pay rise but that may be a rumour.
Incidentally the cruise line (P&O Cruises) is unaffected by the developments as it is a separate business owned by Carnival UK.

2021 accounts aren't due until 30 Sept '22.
P&O Cruises/Carnival have made an announcement that they are unrelated, though I expect they'll still suffer from the public perception.