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Ok 3 different paths but i have one question.....And i dont want this to take off into a ball flight laws thread!.


When i started learning the game i was severely out to in like most and over time i think that with changes to my swing and whatnot and trying to draw the ball my path now seems to be in-square-in.....

The reason im thinking this is that my divots are half moon shaped similar to the way i swing the club...
So......Is there any way that i can draw the ball with an out to in path....And this is just a thought in my head....I have a dose of the shanks again and everything that i read seems to say that they are caused by an out to in swing path....Now here is the spanner in the works.....Tonight at the range i put a block of timber right outside my ball to force me to come at the ball from the inside.....

I wont lie i did hit it a few times but it felt like the toe of the club...
My good shots were starting right of my target by about 5 yards and drawing back.....

Surely there is no way that i can do this with an out to in path!
Im just trying to get to the root cause of this through a process of elimination.
I have a one plane swing and there are certain drills that i may need to be doing to eliminate them.

Thanks in advance...Mike.:thup:
 
Assuming you take a divot after you hit the ball. Plus the cresent shape starts, from out to in. You are most likely hitting. In-out-in. Most shanks are caused by that swing path. But with a flatish swing that has got to in-out-in. The draw sounds as though you are hitting the ball on the in-out part of the swing. With the face slightly closed to the line of the swing. Mind you I bet someone, not saying who comes along and says I'm talking a right load of ----------?
 
My out to in swing has been cured by me taking a wider back swing and cocking my wrists at the top of the back swing.

On the back swing I'm being told try to imagine a clock face on the ground, 12 to 6 if you imagine a line drawn between them is you target line, then when you start on your take away try to imagine the club head passing over 5 o'clock.

At the top of the back swing, pull the butt of the shaft away from you by cocking your wrist you enable this motion and this stops you casting the club like a fishing rod.

Those two tips helped me get my swing path sorted from out to in and now I'm 9 times out of 10 i'm coming from the inside or square
 
DaveM said:
Assuming you take a divot after you hit the ball. Plus the cresent shape starts, from out to in. You are most likely hitting. In-out-in. Most shanks are caused by that swing path. But with a flatish swing that has got to in-out-in. The draw sounds as though you are hitting the ball on the in-out part of the swing. With the face slightly closed to the line of the swing. Mind you I bet someone, not saying who comes along and says I'm talking a right load of ----------?
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This is what im thinking too Dave....I just want someone in the know to clarify it....I would guess that im not swinging out to in....I think that spending 12 months trying to draw the ball has put pay to that...
I do hit the odd fade as well which im guessing is from the in to out path with the open face...

If i can at least know that my path is what i think then i can start putting a few check points in place to rid my game of the blasted things....

Im actually getting pretty close now to going the.....Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....S&T route.:whistle:
 
Shanks may welll be due to early extension, but as bob says, you could do with putting a video up.
Loads of good drills on youtube to help stop early extension
 
bobmac said:
Any chance of a video ?
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the best i could do is maybe have one for you tomorrow evening bob and the most club would be a 7 iron.. our ractice area is only 150 mtrs long.
ill get my daughter to do a down the line and in front and i hope it doesnt happen but ill see if i can manage to shank one as well.
 
Gareth said:
Is this even a swing path?
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Check out lee westwoods swing Gareth.
Westwood swings back inside the target line staight after impact.
Unlike where some players follow the ball down the target line.

In a one plane swing its in to out and the the club goes low and left after contact.
 
kid2 said:
Check out lee westwoods swing Gareth.
Westwood swings back inside the target line staight after impact.
Unlike where some players follow the ball down the target line.

In a one plane swing its in to out and the the club goes low and left after contact.
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I see what you mean but I wouldn't call it an in-to-in swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8zINlxrzE

To me, he looks in-square-in here........ But then what do I know hacking it round of 18 :mad:

Note: Fast forward clip to 1:25.
 
Gareth said:
I see what you mean but I wouldn't call it an in-to-in swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8zINlxrzE


Note: Fast forward clip to 1:25.
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I didnt call it that either unless you took me up wrong......
It isnt an in to out swing in the traditional sense.....If it was he would be off after the ball down the line with the club....
As you can see he comes back inside the target line straight after impact.

This is what i do...But at the moment im hitting the odd shank or 2 during a round and even in practice...So i just want to see where im going wrong....

Its a pretty simple swing so if i can get a video off to my Friend Bob he'll put me right iv no doubt.
 
kid2 said:
Im actually getting pretty close now to going the.....Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....S&T route.:whistle:
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S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, make yer mind up! :whistle:

In-square-in?.......... hmmmmmm lemme 'splain....

If you're taking a divot then the club would be IN THE GROUND where?.... at the LOWEST POINT.... on an in-square-in path the lowest point would then be where you'd call it 'square'... so you'd have to hit the ball BEFORE that point when the club is still travelling from the INSIDE......

... so......

..... an in-square-in swingpath IS an IN-OUT PATH AT IMPACT!!!!!!
 
JustOne said:
S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, S&T not S&T, make yer mind up! :whistle:

In-square-in?.......... hmmmmmm lemme 'splain....

If you're taking a divot then the club would be IN THE GROUND where?.... at the LOWEST POINT.... on an in-square-in path the lowest point would then be where you'd call it 'square'... so you'd have to hit the ball BEFORE that point when the club is still travelling from the INSIDE......

... so......

..... an in-square-in swingpath IS an IN-OUT PATH AT IMPACT!!!!!!
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Gold Star for you my friend.;)
I know that it has to go back out after coming in...I was just trying to explain it to Gareth....
I think that some people find it a bit weird that it goes back in after contact with the ball and not down the line the ball has traveled on....


As i have your Att: James....How close is this swing to S&T.....I would imagine that its more related to it than the traditional swing!
 
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