One swing or two?

Set up is key for the driver - all been said on this thread already. A smooth tempo is vital which ever club you use but my pro is keen to see me hold back slightly on the irons whilst going for it with the driver. Just have a look on youtube at Rory hitting an iron v hitting a driver. there is a marked difference in his swing speed.
 
I guess it comes down to what you define as different when you talk about the swing.

Apart from the obvious differences in set up, I dont do anything different weather I'm hitting a driver or a wedge.

It will be a different swing because one is as flat as I'll swing the other is as steep as I'll swing.

I just feel that naturally the driver is more around the body due to the length of the shaft and the wedge is more up right. Both different looking, both the same 'swing'.
 
Same basic swing but different ball positioning. As a result hands are not as far forward of the ball and right shoulder sits a bit lower with the driver.
 
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drive4show said:
OK....enlighten me. Those that reckon they have 2 swings, what is the difference between them?
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Here we go, lol.

Irons: Hands work up (not in) and wrist cock works up as the body turns. Downswing involves getting my right palm facing straight in front of me, which forces the body to turn to square the club face.

Driver: Same backswing, but I'm not flexible or fit enough to square the club face using the same technique as the irons. As such, the focus is on swinging the handle of the club as if it's 'around the corner' of my left thigh. This spins the clubhead round in time for impact and improves my strike no end, also helping to maintain natural loft. This is how I hit my driver a few years ago (getting cut from 20 to 13) and it was the best part of my game.

Over the past few months, my iron play has pretty much got me down to Cat 2, and attempting to have one swing for all clubs has meant low cutting drivers, with shocking high/low/heel/toe strikes. Not anymore. Back to the old driver swing!
 
virtuocity said:
Here we go, lol.

Irons: Hands work up (not in) and wrist cock works up as the body turns. Downswing involves getting my right palm facing straight in front of me, which forces the body to turn to square the club face.

Driver: Same backswing, but I'm not flexible or fit enough to square the club face using the same technique as the irons. As such, the focus is on swinging the handle of the club as if it's 'around the corner' of my left thigh. This spins the clubhead round in time for impact and improves my strike no end, also helping to maintain natural loft. This is how I hit my driver a few years ago (getting cut from 20 to 13) and it was the best part of my game.

Over the past few months, my iron play has pretty much got me down to Cat 2, and attempting to have one swing for all clubs has meant low cutting drivers, with shocking high/low/heel/toe strikes. Not anymore. Back to the old driver swing!
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Excellent stuff! That's a lot to fit into 0.8secs (typical swing tempo) :thup:
 
drive4show said:
Excellent stuff! That's a lot to fit into 0.8secs (typical swing tempo) :thup:
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So is:

"Smooth takeaway, wrist cock by 9 o'clock, get weight into right side, lower half first, speed up hands, turn body, release through to target, keep balance and get up on your back toes, hold the pose".

Good players manage to do all these things with one or two swing thoughts.
 
rudebhoy said:
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So, do you have one swing for both, or slightly different swings for driving and irons?
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No idea, though Driver swing is more likely to be (hopefully, but rarely!) the same each time. Whereas shots with irons or hybrids will often be 'tailored' to the particular conditions that I think I require!
 
virtuocity said:
So is:

"Smooth takeaway, wrist cock by 9 o'clock, get weight into right side, lower half first, speed up hands, turn body, release through to target, keep balance and get up on your back toes, hold the pose".

Good players manage to do all these things with one or two swing thoughts.
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That's 10 swing thoughts by my reckoning. Do you seriously reckon you can think/remember to do all that?

#KISS
 
virtuocity said:
So- 2 anatomical movements, yeah?
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Well that really depends on how you break down the term movement.

If you are referring to medial and lateral rotation then yes, it is. One movement back and one movement forward. If you want to break it down any further then feel free to do so but I can't be arsed getting into an argument about it. The golf swing is a pretty simple thing, you can make it as complicated as you want. All I'm saying is good players keep it simple.
 
drive4show said:
Well that really depends on how you break down the term movement.

If you are referring to medial and lateral rotation then yes, it is. One movement back and one movement forward. If you want to break it down any further then feel free to do so but I can't be arsed getting into an argument about it. The golf swing is a pretty simple thing, you can make it as complicated as you want. All I'm saying is good players keep it simple.
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Not arguing. Speaking of simple, I'm afraid I can't phrase my question more simply.

I've asked whether you considered the golf swing to be two anatomical movements. Nothing more implied.
 
virtuocity said:
Not arguing. Speaking of simple, I'm afraid I can't phrase my question more simply.

I've asked whether you considered the golf swing to be two anatomical movements. Nothing more implied.
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Yes I do, one backwards movement and one forwards movement :thup:
 
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