One for the Techies amoung you!

I am all in favour of taping up to be honest.

I have tried a driver taped-up, purchased it, and then gone on to play with it and there is no real difference.

Also, how else can you prevent new goods becoming secondhand? Imagine if every driver was to be demo'd, tape-free, in every loft/shaft option. There would be no new clubs in the shop!
 
So to avoid the inconvenience of a shop full of soiled drivers, the best option is to sell a product that guised as something it isn't? To con the unsuspecting 28 handicapper that this club will cure his destructive slice?

Sorry, don't understand :D
 
Tis why now most drivers have optifit.

I'm not buying that manufacturers cannot afford to offer a demo club in all options. They make mega millions per year.

Besides, if I bought a brand new club then I'd want my brand new driver to have shrink wrap on the head, not a head that's been exposed and been used and looks slightly new. You can't sell a head that's been taped up as new. It isn't.

The main reason they tape up is to the alter the characteristics of the ball flight.
 
Tis why now most drivers have optifit.

I agree the optifit is a great step forward but not all pro shops will have that facility for all the clubs they sell.
They also make a cracking pro-biotic yogurt :)

You can't sell a head that's been taped up as new. It isn't.

I promise if you have bought a driver off the shelf from a pro shop, it has been hit before. If it's taped properly and cleaned off properly, you wont be able to tell it's been hit before.

The main reason they tape up is to the alter the characteristics of the ball flight.

Absolutely rubbish
 
The main reason they tape up is to the alter the characteristics of the ball flight.

Thats a dangerous statement to make.

Are you saying that taping clubs up is a big con-trick to make drivers seem much more forgiving and easier to hit straight?

If you are are think you are a) very wrong on the physics of when a club is taped-up and b) insulting to hard working club-pro's and retailers who use this tried and tested method to demo drivers and also protect their stock.

Never know I may be wrong but thems my thoughts.
 
How can nullifying the effects of the grooves with tape be right?

How can I be wrong in saying that?

Look at the grooves on many faces first of all. Very Shallow.

Then consider the thickness of a strip of parcel tape. Miniscule.

The golf ball, being hit at over 100mph swing-speed is going to make contact with those grooves through the ultra-thin bit of tape, there is simply no doubt about it. The grooves will play their part tape or no-tape.
 
Hmmm.....grass between the clubhead and reduced spin on wedges springs to mind here.

Why all the nonsense then over wedge grooves if anything thin between the ball and face has no effect?
 
Hmmm.....grass between the clubhead and reduced spin on wedges springs to mind here.

Why all the nonsense then over wedge grooves if anything thin between the ball and face has no effect?

I believe we were talking about drivers?
You said the tape would change the characteristics of the grooves on the said driver

This is the Cobra S2

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Even if you go to most demo days the fitter will at the very least put an impact strip on the face to see where you are striking in which will have the same effect as tape albeit these are demo clubs anyway. I'm sure if that was going to nulify the characteristics they would have gone back to covering the face in chalk dust. Anyway what characteristics are going to change when you're hitting a range ball anyway.
 
I've just bought a Cobra S2 offset 11.5 degree reg flex from American golf this week just gone. I tried it in the shop with the demo club and was hitting it really well. I was told the offset will cancel out any fade I seem to get.
Now In the shop it was going a great distance and straight when using the vector, I've had 3 rounds with it now and all I do is hook it severely .
It really makes me question the quality of the vector and the custom fit I received.
So I'm not convinced at all.
 
I think a few people are missing the target.....I stand to be corrected here but Most drivers dont have grooves on the face......Some have them around the impact area but they are not functional.......
I think the reason that drivers dont have grooves is that it reduces the amount of spin put on a ball if the face is smooth......And as everyone knows less spin = straighter shots with longer clubs.......Also the function of grooves on any club is
A. To remove water and grass from between the ball.
B. To add grip and spin.....
Now as most shots played with a driver are off a tee which is above grass thats Function A out.
And we want less spin for straighter flight which puts point B to bed.
 
I've just bought a Cobra S2 offset 11.5 degree reg flex from American golf this week just gone. I tried it in the shop with the demo club and was hitting it really well. I was told the offset will cancel out any fade I seem to get.
Now In the shop it was going a great distance and straight when using the vector, I've had 3 rounds with it now and all I do is hook it severely .
It really makes me question the quality of the vector and the custom fit I received.
So I'm not convinced at all.



LTP......If you even have a slightly stong grip with that offset you'll be in trouble i think......Someone will correct me if im wrong......
Have you struggled with a fade for a while....Its not a bad shot shape to have if its consistent.......I dont think offset is the answer though
 
I'm sorry but the bottom line is that hitting a taped up club with range balls is about as realistic as its going to get unless you can a) use a demo model which has already been marked through use b) find somewhere to use proper golf balls.

Looking at the post about hitting on a monitor in AG and then not getting on with it after purchase seems to reiterate the need to try before you buy properly. I've hit loads of drivers in the last few years (no surprise there) and I don't think any of their performances have been affected by some masking tape. Rock hard and chipped range balls perhaps but tape - NO
 
Kid2:

My fade is not too bad, just have a tendency to push it that way that's all. Probably 50% of my drives do that and the others are straight.

The guy suggested the offset and low and behold it cured it in the shop and they all flew straight even the hint of draw which was nice.

Might try to not grip it too tight and get downtime range with it and see what happens. Maybe I was gripping it too tight and was trying too hard with it I can't be sure.
 
Oh and just to add, I kept the driver in the bag this afternoon and played a 3 iron off the tee even on the long par 5's and shot a 83. 13 over and that was with a 9 on the card too. Who needs a driver ey???
 
Oh and just to add, I kept the driver in the bag this afternoon and played a 3 iron off the tee even on the long par 5's and shot a 83. 13 over and that was with a 9 on the card too. Who needs a driver ey???

Thats why i havent been playing one lately LTP......I use 3 wood off the tee...But id like to be able to hit a driver well....All in good time though.....

Also when i ment your grip may be a little too strong i ment in position not in strength terms.......

Try putting your hands in a more neutral position on the Club...See if that helps.
 
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