On a Day by Day basis which would you rather play?

[KenL]

There are a tiny few Brits (I'm not one of them) who call a sidewalk a footpath or pedestrian path. To them a pavement is any paved area - could be the whole street if it is all paved.

Never met one.

 

[rosecott]

There's a bogey comp at our place which is still qualifying for handicap, so you have to putt out otherwise your score differential could be several shots higher than it should be.

Several? Read my post. For more than 2 shots to be involved your HI would need to be in the 40s.

 

[Orikoru]

Several? Read my post. For more than 2 shots to be involved your HI would need to be in the 40s.

In a bogey comp, don't you pick up when you can't make a net par? But in Stableford net bogey would be 1 point so if it's counting for handicap you need to putt that out as well.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I am still confused over why you are being told to putt out. We occasionally post this reminder:

"Stableford and Bogey – be aware of the point where you can no longer score a Stableford point or achieve a “half” in a Bogey. You should also be aware that your Competition Handicap may be 1 or even 2 shots lower than you Course Handicap so be careful not to pick up too early as WHS handicap calculations are based on Course Handicaps."

That is not telling players that they must putt out.

Did it change for HC purposes a bogey where the gross score counts as opposed in the past they just changed the score to an equivalent Stableford

 

[PaulMdj]

I am still confused over why you are being told to putt out. We occasionally post this reminder:

"Stableford and Bogey – be aware of the point where you can no longer score a Stableford point or achieve a “half” in a Bogey. You should also be aware that your Competition Handicap may be 1 or even 2 shots lower than you Course Handicap so be careful not to pick up too early as WHS handicap calculations are based on Course Handicaps."

That is not telling players that they must putt out.

But did you post any reminder prior to WHS?

 

[KenL]

In bogey (aka par) you are playing against the course. If you are not getting a stroke on a hole, if you get a par, you might as well score a 10. You lose the hole.

That’s my understanding anyway.

 

[PaulMdj]

In bogey (aka par) you are playing against the course. If you are not getting a stroke on a hole, if you get a par, you might as well score a 10. You lose the hole.

That’s my understanding anyway.

If it’s a qualifier, that was the way pre WHS and if you finished, for example, 2 Up, that was converted to 38 Stableford points for Handicap purposes.

Now you should putt out in accordance with what Rosecott posted #179.

So our 1st, Par 4, SI 13, I don’t get a shot, previously if I didn’t Par it, lose the hole, pick up, now, I still lose the Hole, but have try and get the bogey for handicap purposes.

 

[KenL]

If it’s a qualifier, that was the way pre WHS and if you finished, for example, 2 Up, that was converted to 38 Stableford points for Handicap purposes.

Now you should putt out in accordance with what Rosecott posted #179.

So our 1st, Par 4, SI 13, I don’t get a shot, previously if I didn’t Par it, lose the hole, pick up, now, I still lose the Hole, but have try and get the bogey for handicap purposes.

Thanks for that.
So now, for handicap, the scoring is the normal way but you compete in the comp using the bogey scoring method?

 

[Deleted member 35927]

If it’s a qualifier, that was the way pre WHS and if you finished, for example, 2 Up, that was converted to 38 Stableford points for Handicap purposes.

Now you should putt out in accordance with what Rosecott posted #179.

So our 1st, Par 4, SI 13, I don’t get a shot, previously if I didn’t Par it, lose the hole, pick up, now, I still lose the Hole, but have try and get the bogey for handicap purposes.

We are told to putt out in bogey if we would still score a stapleford point. To maintain handicap integrity.

 

[PaulMdj]

Thanks for that.
So now, for handicap, the scoring is the normal way but you compete in the comp using the bogey scoring method?

Yes, the change only came in with WHS, imo, it’s took some of the fun out it, it’s Matchplay against the Course, but not as we know it.

 

[clubchamp98]

In bogey (aka par) you are playing against the course. If you are not getting a stroke on a hole, if you get a par, you might as well score a 10. You lose the hole.

That’s my understanding anyway.

If you get a par it’s a half surely.?

 

[fenwayrich]

In Bogey competitions, birdies on shot holes (and any eagle unless you're giving the hole a stroke) are irrelevant. That's plain daft.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

In Bogey competitions, birdies on shot holes (and any eagle unless you're giving the hole a stroke) are irrelevant. That's plain daft.

Nothing quite like lag putting from 2 foot,

 

[Orikoru]

In Bogey competitions, birdies on shot holes (and any eagle unless you're giving the hole a stroke) are irrelevant. That's plain daft.

Yeah it is probably the worst format in golf. I only played it once, thought it was stupid, never again.

 

[rosecott]

We are told to putt out in bogey if we would still score a stapleford point. To maintain handicap integrity.

Got it in one.

 

[PaulMdj]

Got it in one.

That’s avoiding my initial statement and my question to you!

 

[bobmac]

Never met one.

Me neither
A pavement is the bit in between the shops and the road

 

[Slab]

There are a tiny few Brits (I'm not one of them) who call a sidewalk a footpath or pedestrian path. To them a pavement is any paved area - could be the whole street if it is all paved.

I'll use whatever term I believe will be most easily understood by the person I'm talking to, saves energy
Sometimes roundabouts are circles and traffic lights are robots etc

KYC

 

[KenL]

If you get a par it’s a half surely.?

Yes, meant a bogey - oops.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Me neither
A pavement is the bit in between the shops and the road

Even if it not paved?

The bit between my house and the roadway is tarmac. Between it and the roadway is the kerb. I call it the pavement. It is the footpath. It is the pedestrian path.

Some people are very technical in their use of words when it is their job - Civil Engineers, Town Planners, Architects etc in this case, Doctors, Lawyers etc in things relevant to their jobs.

But even most of the occupations I mentioned will still use the common parlance of pavement as the vast majority of us do.

Like I said - a tiny few.