I didn't agree with his response, it is incorrect. Low but not scrratch golfers certainly did win before in just marginally higher proportion than pro-rata.He agreed with your post.
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Again, you're the one misrepresenting as Ian says, 54 limit was in force under UHS, it's not a new WHS feature
wjemather
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I'd guess these are just random links from a google search, and you just assumed they support your cause without even bothering open the articles behind the (click-bait) headlines?To those that believe the few on here, who are trying to articulate the issues they have experienced with WHS, are somehow in a minority how would you explain the existence of these articles? And there are more...
The World Handicap System Continues to Cause Controversy
After writing about his experiences of returning to the game and gaining a golf handicap, Golfshake's Derek Clements received a wide variety of comments and responses from keen golfers about the World Handicap System. He now shares those and reacts to what was said.www.golfshake.com
The World Handicap System Continues to Divide Golfers
The World Handicap System was introduced in Britain amid much fanfare more than two years ago. It was supposed to end the debate once and for all. But many of you still have serious issues with it. In our recent annual Golfshake Survey it once again turned out to be a thorny subject for you.
Why The World Handicap System Has Ruined Golf For Low Handicappers
Single figure golfer Carly Frost says the World Handicap System has caused a sensational and unpopular shake-up of handicapswww.golfmonthly.com
It's time to have your say on the World Handicap System - GCMA
Clubs and golfers are being urged by the R&A and USGA to give their opinions in a new World Handicap System surveywww.gcma.org.uk
The World Handicap System has left club competitions in a mess – and only YOU can fix it
The cure for our WHS issues may be worse than the disease. But, asks Steve Carroll, are we prepared to completely change the way we think about the game?www.nationalclubgolfer.com
Another is just publicising the recent survey.
Two are a collections of (generally uninformed) comments, both pro and anti, with no evidence to support anything and devoid of fact-checking, analysis or conclusion.
One is a rant by a low handicapper who was being less than honest about their own golf during the year.
If you are going to direct us to articles on the subject, please read them first - and be honest about what they contain.
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Handicaps came down quicker under UHS, now a big round is diluted x8, whereas conversly it's very easy to go up quickly.
Arthur Wedge
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There was moaning about Congu and UHS and there will prob be moaning about the next system
...except, they could have been playing up to 54 handicap.
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I think Carly Frost, just to single out one, knows the system and grasps the change pretty well. She makes her point very well in the Golf Monthly article.
Surely the survey wouldn't have been necessary if enough golfers shared your view on WHS?
I think the question you want answering is to do with introducing players who are new to the game into your club? That will be done in different ways depending on the club and has little to do with WHS.
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I've read them all and none are from 2017.
PaulMdj
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you really do like to pick and choose your words! Show me the letters WHS in the post you’ve quoted!
Oops, not another Boris moment?
wjemather
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Your post originally linked to this article: https://www.nationalclubgolfer.com/whs/world-handicap-system/.
Paul, you keep harping on that players were restricted to 28 before WHS, this is nonsense, UHS already allowed up to 54 handicaps
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Possibly. It didn't create the URLs properly but I fixed it straight away. Fair comment. You were too quick on the draw.
Arthur Wedge
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It says “article updated October 2023”
PaulMdj
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No it wasn’t CONGU advised in 2018 that Handicaps up to 54 were to be introduced, it wasn’t actually introduced as mandatory until the introduction of WHS in 2020, here’s an article explaining this.
What is Wrong With Golfers Having a 54 Handicap
Coming in November, the World Handicap System is destined to change the game as we know it, with one of the early main concerns being the increase of a maximum handicap to 54. But is this a problem? Golfshake's Derek Clements explains why he doesn't understand what the fuss is all about.
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Even so I meant to use:
The World Handicap System has left club competitions in a mess – and only YOU can fix it
The cure for our WHS issues may be worse than the disease. But, asks Steve Carroll, are we prepared to completely change the way we think about the game?
www.nationalclubgolfer.com
wjemather
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54 handicaps were introduced in 2019 under CONGU UHS. They had previously been available as "club" or "disability" handicaps before that.No it wasn’t CONGU advised in 2018 that Handicaps up to 54 were to be introduced, it wasn’t actually introduced as mandatory until the introduction of WHS in 2020, here’s an article explaining this.
What is Wrong With Golfers Having a 54 Handicap
Coming in November, the World Handicap System is destined to change the game as we know it, with one of the early main concerns being the increase of a maximum handicap to 54. But is this a problem? Golfshake's Derek Clements explains why he doesn't understand what the fuss is all about.
Clubs have always been permitted to place limits on their competitions and that remains the case. While clubs are strongly encouraged to provide the opportunity for competition golf to all using their full handicap allowance, there is no requirement for that to be in the same comps as lower handicaps or for any/all comps to be open to all without limits.
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PaulMdj
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And an article from 2019 explaining it again.
www.golfshake.com
The World Handicap System All You Need to Know
Monumental changes are coming to golf in 2020, with the launch of the new World Handicap System, which aims to provide us all with a unified and more inclusive system for the first time. But what does that mean for you? Golfshake's Derek Clements takes a closer look at the system and explains.
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Anyway, my point is that it's caused quite the controversy and having a go at some of us by suggesting we are in the minority is hard to justify.
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Yep, the link was changed.