IanG
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I heard this yesterday - wonder why the teams are allowed to use their own sets of balls, why not have the same set ? Seems like a recipe for temptations.
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I heard this yesterday - wonder why the teams are allowed to use their own sets of balls, why not have the same set ? Seems like a recipe for temptations.
CheltenhamHacker
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Certainly a quirk of the system! And a third set of balls for kicking!
MendieGK
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Each QB likes the ball 'prepped' in a slightly different way not much different to a golfer i suppose?
this is a really interesting read about how Eli Mannings footballs are prepared -
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/s...ings-footballs-are-months-in-making.html?_r=0
CheltenhamHacker
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Oh I get that (v interesting article), but why not just have the one set of unprepped balls? Like nearly every other team sport....
Paul_Stewart
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To make them easier for defensive backs to catch?
IanG
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Thanks for that - it was an interesting read - I had no idea that all went on. I guess that is the price we pay for the incredible accuracy and touch these guys throw with.
Tashyboy
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Three different sets of ball for the same game 😳. Well that's me learned something for today.
if you are able to prepare/doctor you ball then why not have whatever pressure you want in it. Surely that's helping to prepare your ball.
can just imagine the excuse from the Indy colts saying " I couldn't catch that coz am not used to the pressure in it"
that probably explains why in one of my books from the 80's a punter was accused of pumping helium in his balls (keep it clean boys) because he could kick the ball so high (Thus creating valuable hang time) that his special teams were sat having sandwiches when the ball came down and the punt returner was waiting to get battered. think he played for the raiders.
if you are able to prepare/doctor you ball then why not have whatever pressure you want in it. Surely that's helping to prepare your ball.
can just imagine the excuse from the Indy colts saying " I couldn't catch that coz am not used to the pressure in it"
that probably explains why in one of my books from the 80's a punter was accused of pumping helium in his balls (keep it clean boys) because he could kick the ball so high (Thus creating valuable hang time) that his special teams were sat having sandwiches when the ball came down and the punt returner was waiting to get battered. think he played for the raiders.
Paul_Stewart
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Ray Guy and that story was completely fabricated.
swanny32
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Actually, what doesn't seem to get mentioned all that much when this "Deflategate" is spoken about is that both teams have to provide their own offensive balls to the referee's 1.5 hours before kick off. When the Colts offense is on the field they are using their own balls and the same for the Pats. The Patriots handed 12 of their balls to the officials prior to kick off, all withing the restrictions, due to the adverse weather conditions they deflated them during the game which is illegal, all but one of them anyway, assuming because they needed to have a legal ball ready to give to an official if any questions were asked..
It's a well known fact that a flatter ball is easier to grip, throw and catch, thus making it slightly easier for their offense. Caught cheating again! Disgraceful and I hope Seattle demolish Belichick and his bunch of cheats next Sunday.
It's a well known fact that a flatter ball is easier to grip, throw and catch, thus making it slightly easier for their offense. Caught cheating again! Disgraceful and I hope Seattle demolish Belichick and his bunch of cheats next Sunday.
swanny32
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They'll get a fine and possibly lose a draft pick, which doesn't bother Belichick anyway as he trades down all the time anyway. Goodell should punish them properly and suspend Belichick for a season. They did it with Sean Payton when the Saints had Bountygate a couple seasons ago, he got banned for something that isn't even cheating!
Blue in Munich
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Every day's a school day, couldn't be more different from real football, thanks for that.
Go Seahawks!!!!
Piece
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Interesting thread about ball prep - didn't know that. 
Tashyboy
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One way to solve this once and for all and to stop it happening again. Both sides use the same balls as supplied by the referees.
is that to hard.
is that to hard.
Tashyboy
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It's showtime.
go Pats.
go Pats.
Khamelion
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A very entertaining Superbowl, but why the Hawks passed the ball on the 1 yard line when they had the best running back in the NFL on the pitch is beyond me. 20secs on the clock, 4 downs, 1 yard and 1 timeout remaining, give the ball to Marshawn Lynch, it's a no brainer, instead they throw the ball and get it intercepted. What a stupid bone head play.
Beezerk
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Cheats win, yay!
Piece
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Watched the first quarter: a 0-0 yawn! Too tired to watch the rest...looks like I missed all the best parts. Will watch highlights later.
Tashyboy
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Yup that was me. Cuppa tea and Super Bowl then donate a pint of claret.
MendieGK
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Ironic that they only got into the superbowl because of bad play calling, and then lost it because of their own bad play calling!
Region3
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Not that I know a lot about NFL but having read the coach's (not the_coach) reasoning behind it I can sort of understand.
It was 2nd and goal, and they had 1 time out left.
If they run and don't make it they have 2 plays left and can only stop the clock once which won't allow them to run twice more with only about 15 seconds left.
Assuming they used all 4 downs they'd have had to have thrown once or risk running out of time, at which time the defence will be waiting for the pass. He thought it better to attempt the pass first when the defensive personnel were chosen for run stopping.
At worst he considered it a 'throw away' play because you don't think your QB is going to make a risky throw.
It was 2nd and goal, and they had 1 time out left.
If they run and don't make it they have 2 plays left and can only stop the clock once which won't allow them to run twice more with only about 15 seconds left.
Assuming they used all 4 downs they'd have had to have thrown once or risk running out of time, at which time the defence will be waiting for the pass. He thought it better to attempt the pass first when the defensive personnel were chosen for run stopping.
At worst he considered it a 'throw away' play because you don't think your QB is going to make a risky throw.
