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I picked rams an chiefs. Seems in no better at picking football than I am soccer 🤦🏼‍♂️😭🤣
 

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Decent Championship games. I only managed to catch the highlights. Bit of a dodgy call - no pass interference.

If I tip Patriots to win, perhaps that guarantees they won't! :LOL:
 

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Cracking pair of Championship games

I thought the officials did Sean Peyton a favor, all everyone is talking about is the missed PI call, not his shocking decision to pass on 1st down and leave LA with a Time Out
 

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As someone who has lost touch with American Football, I last really took notice back in the late 80's, can anyone explain why past giants such as the 49'ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Redskins have been nowhere to be seen for quite some time. I thought the system was supposed to prevent one team, ie the Patriots, from dominating, and poor teams to improve. Have those teams I mentioned been badly run since their heyday? Are the Patriots exceptional in their organisation?
 

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As someone who has lost touch with American Football, I last really took notice back in the late 80's, can anyone explain why past giants such as the 49'ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Redskins have been nowhere to be seen for quite some time. I thought the system was supposed to prevent one team, ie the Patriots, from dominating, and poor teams to improve. Have those teams I mentioned been badly run since their heyday? Are the Patriots exceptional in their organisation?

LT. pats are my team and i asked the same question on post 107. Amazing how it keeps happening how the Pats keep doing it. Brady best ever QB?
 

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LT. pats are my team and i asked the same question on post 107. Amazing how it keeps happening how the Pats keep doing it. Brady best ever QB?
Sorry Tashy, I only dip into this one every now and again. I will read back. - Just read back, no one answered you. Hopefully someone will pick this one up and educate us both.

I think Brady must be, surely. He gets his team past the winning post time and time again, year after year. Remarkable. (Oh, and he was in Ted 2 and for that alone he gets my vote, "nice spiral" :ROFLMAO:)
 

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Sorry Tashy, I only dip into this one every now and again. I will read back. - Just read back, no one answered you. Hopefully someone will pick this one up and educate us both.

I think Brady must be, surely. He gets his team past the winning post time and time again, year after year. Remarkable. (Oh, and he was in Ted 2 and for that alone he gets my vote, "nice spiral" :ROFLMAO:)
No the reason i said i had mentioned it was because i thought I cannot be the only person thinking that. The Pars have a checkered history thats for sure. But they have just been so consistant.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if the closed shop nature of American sports actually works against equality in that there is no punishment for being horrible. This means that bad coaches and back offices get given a lot more time to keep on being bad than (say) in European soccer. If you have bad staff, they keep on making terrible draft choices and terrible coaching decisions for years, so they never get any better.

It's the big drawback for US sport for me - good sport is success AND failure, Ying and Yang. There's as much interest at the bottom of our leagues as the top, and a constant replenishment of talent. Maybe not quite a one way bet in terms of cash though...
 

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Plus the divisional structure basically gives the pats a bye into the post season with a week of every year. Same with baseball and (to a lesser extent) basketball. Historical traveling issues mean that some teams have a really tough for to the playoffs every year, and some have a cake walk.

I'm not that well read on these matters, but I'm surprised more septics don't get the hump about it.
 

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As someone who has lost touch with American Football, I last really took notice back in the late 80's, can anyone explain why past giants such as the 49'ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Redskins have been nowhere to be seen for quite some time. I thought the system was supposed to prevent one team, ie the Patriots, from dominating, and poor teams to improve. Have those teams I mentioned been badly run since their heyday? Are the Patriots exceptional in their organisation?

49ers - years of mis-management from 2002 onwards by the York family. Whilst Jim Harbaugh was coach, he overcame it but their front office is just terrible.
Dallas - Jerry Jones who owns the team thinks he can go head-to-head with NFL general managers around the league. They won three Super Bowls because of Jimmy Johnson's drafting and coaching. They were so good they won the last one with Barry Switzer on the sideline.
Denver - have been very good but the last few years have had no quarterback.
Washington - Daniel Snyder is a poor man's Jerry Jones.

The Patriots do have the best organisation and the best coach and the best QB for the system. They have pushed the boundaries on what they can get away with and have been caught for it a few times hence why they are so disliked around the game. But you have to admire what they have done.
 

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Cracking pair of Championship games

I thought the officials did Sean Peyton a favor, all everyone is talking about is the missed PI call, not his shocking decision to pass on 1st down and leave LA with a Time Out

Payton is an arrogant a-hole who has not changed since he played in the British League in 1987. One of the NFL shows I am involved in was all over his use of the clock on that drive. Yes it was definite Pass Interference (actually more aerial mugging) but most people around the league won't shed any tears for him over this game.
 

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Payton is an arrogant a-hole who has not changed since he played in the British League in 1987. One of the NFL shows I am involved in was all over his use of the clock on that drive. Yes it was definite Pass Interference (actually more aerial mugging) but most people around the league won't shed any tears for him over this game.

Payton's sideline tantrums are fantastic viewing.
Last night's all the better as it may have been the most obvious PI non call for quite some time.
(Of course my opinion may have something to do with them beating the Eagles last week :LOL:)

Shark, do you think the NFL will now bring in reviews for such incidents ?
 

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No there will never be replay on penalties like that - it is too subjective. Replay works where there is a definitive catch/no catch in bounds/out of bounds call. Same in baseball, safe/out. The only issues in baseball replay has been on potential catcher interference on plays at home. In the NFL, there will always be missed calls. But where would you draw the line if you started reviewing penalties? Was the player holding or not? Did the player jump offside or not? It would end up almost farcical. The NFL Competition Committee would never pass it.

As for Payton, he was guilty as hell over Bountygate with that other grade one -a hole Gregg Williams and deservedly got a year's suspension from the league for it. He is a great play designer but his arrogance in play-calling has cost him a bunch of games in the past. He would just about finish in the Top 31 of NFL coaches in a popularity poll.
 

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Agree with you completely, but there is a lot of chat about it already.
I'm in no way an expert but as you say, where do you draw the line ?
I guess if you analysed each play to death you'd find something you could throw a flag for on maybe 50% ?
 

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It was just a plain bush league call by the officials.

Both games were won and lost on tiny tiny margins.

Kansas City would have won had one of their guys not gone into the neutral zone when they picked Brady on a play.

Was a crazy night and I’m glad I stayed up to watch it.
 

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Oh well looks like I'll get to see the Raiders lose in London again, on a plus we'll get to see the best player to don the silver & black in recent history play, pity it's for the opposition
 
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