New Labour Leader

[ColchesterFC]

He tried to out-Shakira Shakira......man, those hips dont lie..his kind of hang

I think that's only true when the hips are your own. I'm pretty sure that artificial hips are perfectly capable of telling the occasional untruth.

 

[chrisd]

My hips certainly can lie ?

 

[SocketRocket]

God..... hes off on one again ??

Dibber ?

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Let me sum up my thoughts about this thread.
I would never presume to lecture my friends in the United Kingdom, a place that treated me so well on my visits there.

Your approach to the funding of healthcare and education is both more modern AND more effective than ours.
My own nation has been severely damaged in recent years by a wave of reactionary thinking that's been encouraged by less than honorable means.
There are signs that the United Kingdom, a great nation and our figurative mother nation, is being threatened in the same way by the same methods.

Without presuming to tell you what to do, I merely wanted to offer our American experience as a factor you might consider in making your choices.
I fail to understand why some would see that as meddling unless those who do have a personal interest in promoting British reactionary politics.

 

[Tashyboy]

Let me sum up my thoughts about this thread.
I would never presume to lecture my friends in the United Kingdom, a place that treated me so well on my visits there.

Your approach to the funding of healthcare and education is both more modern AND more effective than ours.
My own nation has been severely damaged in recent years by a wave of reactionary thinking that's been encouraged by less than honorable means.
There are signs that the United Kingdom, a great nation and our figurative mother nation, is being threatened in the same way by the same methods.

Without presuming to tell you what to do, I merely wanted to offer our American experience as a factor you might consider in making your choices.
I fail to understand why some would see that as meddling unless those who do have a personal interest in promoting British reactionary politics.

YOB, your post sums up this forum nicely. You are told to keep your nose out of UK politics and business. However we are allowed to insult your country And yourself ?. There’s a message in there ??

 

[SocketRocket]

Let me sum up my thoughts about this thread.
I would never presume to lecture my friends in the United Kingdom, a place that treated me so well on my visits there.

Your approach to the funding of healthcare and education is both more modern AND more effective than ours.
My own nation has been severely damaged in recent years by a wave of reactionary thinking that's been encouraged by less than honorable means.
There are signs that the United Kingdom, a great nation and our figurative mother nation, is being threatened in the same way by the same methods.

Without presuming to tell you what to do, I merely wanted to offer our American experience as a factor you might consider in making your choices.
I fail to understand why some would see that as meddling unless those who do have a personal interest in promoting British reactionary politics.

My comment to you was regarding your comment that we would be better off under a labour government.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

My comment to you was regarding your comment that we would be better off under a labour government.

Err, not sure what planet you are currently orbiting, but a reasonable sized chunk of the population think we would be better off under a labour government.

That doesn’t make him or the millions of others, bad people.

Cut him a bit of slack, he is in a different country, is learning our ways and gives us his views on life over the pond

 

[Hobbit]

Let me sum up my thoughts about this thread.
I would never presume to lecture my friends in the United Kingdom, a place that treated me so well on my visits there.

Your approach to the funding of healthcare and education is both more modern AND more effective than ours.
My own nation has been severely damaged in recent years by a wave of reactionary thinking that's been encouraged by less than honorable means.
There are signs that the United Kingdom, a great nation and our figurative mother nation, is being threatened in the same way by the same methods.

Without presuming to tell you what to do, I merely wanted to offer our American experience as a factor you might consider in making your choices.
I fail to understand why some would see that as meddling unless those who do have a personal interest in promoting British reactionary politics.

You're not meddling, you're expressing an opinion. And an opinion from someone outside looking in, especially if they live under a different regime is more than welcome. Crack on Boomer.

 

[Tashyboy]

Err, not sure what planet you are currently orbiting, but a reasonable sized chunk of the population think we would be better off under a labour government.

That doesn’t make him or the millions of others, bad people.

Cut him a bit of slack, he is in a different country, is learning our ways and gives us his views on life over the pond

Bugger off with that kind of sensible comment or you will end up being a mod.
Oops soz frag saw it was your comment a bit late. ???

 

[ColchesterFC]

Err, not sure what planet you are currently orbiting, but a reasonable sized chunk of the population think we would be better off under a labour government.

That doesn’t make him or the millions of others, bad people.

No but it does make them wrong.

 

[SocketRocket]

Err, not sure what planet you are currently orbiting, but a reasonable sized chunk of the population think we would be better off under a labour government.

That doesn’t make him or the millions of others, bad people.

Cut him a bit of slack, he is in a different country, is learning our ways and gives us his views on life over the pond

I'm not orbiting a planet, just going around with the flow as we all are, I take it your comments are devoid of your mods hat so heres my response. He suggested we should take a closer look at a Labour Government if we wish to save our NHS and state education, we just did that and decided otherwise. He is of course entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to disagree with it and I dont give him advice on what type of government I think he should be voting for as it's none of my business. You may also have noticed that a rather sizeable chunk of people decided we would like to give a Conservative government a chance, that doesnt make them bad people either.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I'm not orbiting a planet, just going around with the flow as we all are, I take it your comments are devoid of your mods hat so heres my response. He suggested we should take a closer look at a Labour Government if we wish to save our NHS and state education, we just did that and decided otherwise. He is of course entitled to his opinion just as I am entitled to disagree with it and I dont give him advice on what type of government I think he should be voting for as it's none of my business. You may also have noticed that a rather sizeable chunk of people decided we would like to give a Conservative government a chance, that doesnt make them bad people either.

Dons mod hat.

It’s absolutely fine to disagree with other people’s opinions and to discuss why. That’s what we do here

However, there is an art form called “agreeing to disagree and moving on”

I say this a lot, it is “Fragger’s Mantra”

It is something you are failing at badly.

You cannot attack and belittle someone because they have a different opinion to yours. That is trolling and bullying,

Sort it please

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Keir Starmer voted in, Angela Rayner deputy

 

[Ross61]

Keir Starmer voted in, Angela Rayner deputy

And today Boris invites opposition leaders to Coronavirus strategy meeting.... coincidence? I reckon not, Corbyn’s record on “working together” is appalling.

 

[User20205]

It makes labour more electable at the stroke of a pen. But who knows now we have a ‘socialist’ Tory govt

 

[User62651]

It makes labour more electable at the stroke of a pen. But who knows now we have a ‘socialist’ Tory govt

Agreed, fresh start with a less divisive leader, we need an effective opposition. I'm confident Johnson would much prefer to face Corbyn across the despatch box than Starmer. There are a number of very capable MPs excluded by Corbyn that can hopefully form the shadow cabinet.
Once the Brexit heavy GE voting anomaly is over Labour should recover a lot of lost seats in time.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Agreed, fresh start with a less divisive leader, we need an effective opposition. I'm confident Johnson would much prefer to face Corbyn across the despatch box than Starmer. There are a number of very capable MPs excluded by Corbyn that can hopefully form the shadow cabinet.
Once the Brexit heavy GE voting anomaly is over Labour should recover a lot of lost seats in time.

As much as I think we now have the most Labour Tory Governement ever, it is how the Government deal with the clusterfluk that will be post virus, and how they deal with the rebuilding that will be needed after that will determine strongly whether Boris gets another term.
Im just glad Long-Bailey wasn't made leader, that would have been immediate suicide.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Agreed, fresh start with a less divisive leader, we need an effective opposition. I'm confident Johnson would much prefer to face Corbyn across the despatch box than Starmer. There are a number of very capable MPs excluded by Corbyn that can hopefully form the shadow cabinet.
Once the Brexit heavy GE voting anomaly is over Labour should recover a lot of lost seats in time.

I'm far from sure that it will make much difference.

In the Labour heartlands of the Midlands and North Starmer may well be seen as just another member of the pro-EU Islington elite.

 

[patricks148]

not over the moon TBH, it will be a move away from socialism to Tory light, but i suppose that is better than Tory right

 

[bluewolf]

not over the moon TBH, it will be a move away from socialism to Tory light, but i suppose that is better than Tory right

Being an unpopular powerless Socialist is just a little bit pointless. Society doesn’t currently want Socialism. So the Party needs to reflect what the voters actually want and not just assume that we’re all a bit too stupid to know what we want.

This is a great result. Starmer is intelligent and respected. He’ll eat most of the Government front bench for breakfast. We finally have an Opposition that will pull voters away from the Tories.