New Labour Leader

[Hobbit]

Watched the leader's debate; RLB = Corbyn with a blond wig. She may well do better than a lot of people expect. We've seen what the party members want, and its a lot different to what should have been put in front of the voting public. Labour had their worst performance since forever, and she wants to rehash most of the policies and tell the public why they didn't understand them. If its the party members doing the choosing, who knows what she'll poll.

Nandy; spoke a lot of sense. Connected well, and appeared very honest. Does she carry the weight and gravitas to pull it off?

Starmer; another that spoke very well, and honestly - or appeared to be honest. But where was he when those things needed saying? He was in the Shadow Cabinet that put all those things together. I 'get' the collective responsibility thing but is he really genuine? Does he carry a little bit of the stain of the last leadership team?

Gut feel is Starmer will win it but that will be when the hard work really starts. I don't see the north of England being that hard to win back, especially if great things don't happen up north. And even if they do win back the north they still have to make inroads elsewhere to get a majority. Scotland? That's going to take an epic failure by the SNP for that to happen. In the south? That's going to take a biblical turnaround like the Tories have just achieved in the north, and I just can't see that happening.

A major Tory failure is all that Labour can hope for.

 

[Tashyboy]

Watched the leader's debate; RLB = Corbyn with a blond wig. She may well do better than a lot of people expect. We've seen what the party members want, and its a lot different to what should have been put in front of the voting public. Labour had their worst performance since forever, and she wants to rehash most of the policies and tell the public why they didn't understand them. If its the party members doing the choosing, who knows what she'll poll.

Nandy; spoke a lot of sense. Connected well, and appeared very honest. Does she carry the weight and gravitas to pull it off?

Starmer; another that spoke very well, and honestly - or appeared to be honest. But where was he when those things needed saying? He was in the Shadow Cabinet that put all those things together. I 'get' the collective responsibility thing but is he really genuine? Does he carry a little bit of the stain of the last leadership team?

Gut feel is Starmer will win it but that will be when the hard work really starts. I don't see the north of England being that hard to win back, especially if great things don't happen up north. And even if they do win back the north they still have to make inroads elsewhere to get a majority. Scotland? That's going to take an epic failure by the SNP for that to happen. In the south? That's going to take a biblical turnaround like the Tories have just achieved in the north, and I just can't see that happening.

A major Tory failure is all that Labour can hope for.[/QUOTE]

I think this is what Labour under Corbyn had been waiting for since 2015. The Tories to screw up on Brexit ( and they nearly did) etc. The Labour policies just did not connect with Joe Public. Only time will tell if it’s the same song but a different singer.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

We pay for all of those things, how do you think they get funded? You dont appear to understand UK politics very well, best to let us decide what's best for us and you can sort out what's best for you.

What an absurd comment. Of course you pay for all of those things with your taxes. I stated exactly that in my post.
And when you pay for something with taxes, all the money goes toward that for which you're paying without any being siphoned into profits for insurance companies and big pharma..

My post was a cautionary tale and not sorting out what's best for you.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

What an absurd comment. Of course you pay for all of those things with your taxes. I stated exactly that in my post.
And when you pay for something with taxes, all the money goes toward that for which you're paying without any being siphoned into profits for insurance companies and big pharma..

My post was a cautionary tale and not sorting out what's best for you.
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Only for fear you would shoot him.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Only for fear you would shoot him.

Background information:
I have never aimed any of my firearms at a living creature.

However.again just for background, and this was obviously many years ago,
I was the AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) Greater Boston Welterweight Champion, Novice Class,
and then,
the AAU New England Middleweight Champion, Open Class,
and with that,
have never once bullied anybody physically in my adolescent or adult life.

Unfortunately, if amateur golf were boxing,
I would have been on a respirator and fed intravenously until somebody mercifully pulled the plug.

What SocketRocket would have to fear is engaging in a battle of wits as an unarmed man.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Background information:
I have never aimed any of my firearms at a living creature.

However.again just for background, and this was obviously many years ago,
I was the AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) Greater Boston Welterweight Champion, Novice Class,
and then,
the AAU New England Middleweight Champion, Open Class,
and with that,
have never once bullied anybody physically in my adolescent or adult life.

Unfortunately, if amateur golf were boxing,
I would have been on a respirator and fed intravenously until somebody mercifully pulled the plug.

What SocketRocket would have to fear is engaging in a battle of wits as an unarmed man.

Litterally nobody cares

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Litterally nobody cares

Understood. Yet you cared enough to answer the previous post, didn't you?
I think Socket Rocket has found an evenly matched opponent for his battle of wits. Good job.

 

[Tashyboy]

Litterally nobody cares

But I do. I am interested in all forumers that bring something to the forum No matter what colour, race, gender, religion, left or right handed. What I see is a Yank, American, red neck what ever people on here want to call him who is typecast as the typical ignorant Yank that don’t know that Manchester is not part of London. Is it just coz he carries a gun that don’t sit right with some folk. So what. If people took time to read his posts he has put across his views very well. He has highlighted on how his country is going tits up under Trump, on how divided it is. He has not defended it to the hilt, he has been critical of his own country when he has seen fit. Yet nigh on every time he posts he gets personal abuse which has no relevance to any topic he comments on. Odd thing is he is a bona fida Bostonian and of all cities I have been to they are the friendliest by a country mile. Now if he was a New Yorker I could understand the abuse.
Keep talking and posting YOB Me duck.

 

[patricks148]

What an absurd comment. Of course you pay for all of those things with your taxes. I stated exactly that in my post.
And when you pay for something with taxes, all the money goes toward that for which you're paying without any being siphoned into profits for insurance companies and big pharma..

My post was a cautionary tale and not sorting out what's best for you.
You're just a belligerent prick who has more courage speaking on line than you would face to face.

Unfortunatley some in the Uk and even on here think the Free martket utopia you have in the states is a great model to follow, where the poor are kept poor and used as cheap labour., in poor housing with little access to medical and education, without having to get poorer still to pay for it, Where the rich get richer and pay lower and lower taxes

 

[Tashyboy]

Unfortunatley some in the Uk and even on here think the Free martket utopia you have in the states is a great model to follow, where the poor are kept poor and used as cheap labour., in poor housing with little access to medical and education, without having to get poorer still to pay for it, Where the rich get richer and pay lower and lower taxes

Don’t know if Ave mentioned Ave been in hospital today for half an hour. But the NHS really is the jewel in the crown of this country. Having travelled through the US of A last year, this country cannot afford to go down the America route of medical cobpver.

 

[patricks148]

Don’t know if Ave mentioned Ave been in hospital today for half an hour. But the NHS really is the jewel in the crown of this country. Having travelled through the US of A last year, this country cannot afford to go down the America route of medical cobpver.

really, i didn't see you mention it

well with another 5 years of the tory's keep and eye out for stealth privitisation

 

[chrisd]

Don’t know if Ave mentioned Ave been in hospital today for half an hour. But the NHS really is the jewel in the crown of this country. Having travelled through the US of A last year, this country cannot afford to go down the America route of medical cobpver.

Probably you're just behind Imurg about changing gokf courses and me and my hips ??

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Probably you're just behind Imurg about changing gokf courses and me and my hips ??

Whats wrong with your hips Chris ?

 

[SocketRocket]

Background information:
I have never aimed any of my firearms at a living creature.

However.again just for background, and this was obviously many years ago,
I was the AAU (Amateur Athletic Union) Greater Boston Welterweight Champion, Novice Class,
and then,
the AAU New England Middleweight Champion, Open Class,
and with that,
have never once bullied anybody physically in my adolescent or adult life.

Unfortunately, if amateur golf were boxing,
I would have been on a respirator and fed intravenously until somebody mercifully pulled the plug.

What SocketRocket would have to fear is engaging in a battle of wits as an unarmed man.

My comments to you were due to you suggesting we need to give Labour a chance or we are set on a course similar to that of the USA regarding education and health services. I suggest that's not going to happen and you dont seem to have a very good handle on UK politics. I also dont follow your comments on bullying or what your amateur athletics has to do with the subject. Regarding my ability to challenge your mental abilities, I will treat that comment with the contempt it deserves.

 

[2blue]

What an absurd comment. Of course you pay for all of those things with your taxes. I stated exactly that in my post.
And when you pay for something with taxes, all the money goes toward that for which you're paying without any being siphoned into profits for insurance companies and big pharma..

My post was a cautionary tale and not sorting out what's best for you.

Glad to see you're happy to see off our arrogant forum members as many of us enjoy your comments.
We're with you & 'have his number' as such dib dibbers are so predictable. ??

 

[2blue]

My comments to you were due to you suggesting we need to give Labour a chance or we are set on a course similar to that of the USA regarding education and health services. I suggest that's not going to happen and you dont seem to have a very good handle on UK politics. I also dont follow your comments on bullying or what your amateur athletics has to do with the subject. Regarding my ability to challenge your mental abilities, I will treat that comment with the contempt it deserves.

God..... hes off on one again ??

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The true value of a public owned 'national' Heath Service, with services free at the point of delivery, is being highlighted to the nth degree by the way that trusts and hospitals all across the country are able to work and coordinate together - sharing their best practice and planning for whatever load might land on the system in the coming weeks and months. A potential Labour Party campaign slogan - The NHS - All for One and One for All.

 

[Dando]

Whats wrong with your hips Chris ?

To much action as a youngster ?

 

[ColchesterFC]

To much action as a youngster ?

Don't be ridiculous. Chris was never young. When he was born he was already one hundred and eleventy twelve.

 

[Imurg]

Whats wrong with your hips Chris ?

He tried to out-Shakira Shakira......man, those hips dont lie..his kind of hang