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So when confronted by a situation which means you need to change lane urgently, the system will swing you back into the very danger you are trying to avoid because you didn’t indicate; that sounds like a good reason to turn it off to me.

It can be overridden by holding the steering wheel past it. It only eases back in you just keep steering through

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It might be simple if you realise that in the heat of the moment. Let's hope drivers are properly trained to understand it...

Jesus it's not rocket science man. Ive had a car that has it and it's simple to use.

It's a safety feature That's added by very smart people designed to make driving safer .. so let's trust these people who pretty much know more than your average Joe
 

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Jesus it's not rocket science man. Ive had a car that has it and it's simple to use.

It's a safety feature That's added by very smart people designed to make driving safer .. so let's trust these people who pretty much know more than your average Joe

You're probably not old enough to have seen the issues ABS created when it first came in, so why don't you wind your neck in a bit & appreciate the fact that others on here have seen issues with this sort of thing before and therefore retain a degree of justified skepticism.

As for making driving safer, the easiest way to do that would be to train the vast majority to a higher standard, not create technology that is supposed to address drivers' deficiencies.
 

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You're probably not old enough to have seen the issues ABS created when it first came in, so why don't you wind your neck in a bit & appreciate the fact that others on here have seen issues with this sort of thing before and therefore retain a degree of justified skepticism.

As for making driving safer, the easiest way to do that would be to train the vast majority to a higher standard, not create technology that is supposed to address drivers' deficiencies.

Accidents happen regardless how trained people are

Any tech that can help reduce that is a good thing.
 

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Accidents happen regardless how trained people are

Any tech that can help reduce that is a good thing.

Considerably less accidents will happen if people were properly trained.

The point you're missing is tech only helps if the driver fully understands it and works with it; as other tech has proved in the past, that isn't always the case. And frankly, the more tech that is introduced, the more drivers will rely on it and the further driving standards will fall.
 

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Considerably less accidents will happen if people were properly trained.

The point you're missing is tech only helps if the driver fully understands it and works with it; as other tech has proved in the past, that isn't always the case. And frankly, the more tech that is introduced, the more drivers will rely on it and the further driving standards will fall.

Accidents can happen between two highly trained drivers due to anything ..

Accidents happen
Yes better drivers might help reduce accidents however the standards are what they are

Technology helps saves life's

It's a clever bit of tech and it works.
 

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Accidents can happen between two highly trained drivers due to anything ..

Accidents happen
Yes better drivers might help reduce accidents however the standards are what they are

Technology helps saves life's

It's a clever bit of tech and it works.

Calm down ladies.. in less than 10 years, no need for driver training.. we will all be in driverless cars .. imagine that
 

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So when confronted by a situation which means you need to change lane urgently, the system will swing you back into the very danger you are trying to avoid because you didn’t indicate; that sounds like a good reason to turn it off to me.

I think the OP with his "swerve" comment was possibly being a little over dramatic.
If not, I think there is a problem with his particular car rather than the technology involved.
You should feel a gentle movement through the wheel which can easily be overcome by slightly firmer input from the driver.
Certainly, the steering effort involved when changing lanes urgently in an emergency situation would easily be enough to override any correction by the inbuilt safety system. I doubt if you'd even feel it, it's that gentle in it's operation.
Ultimately, technology like this will save lives. I personally know of two accidents in recent times where lane keeping technology would have helped, and could have prevented one death. An audible alert would have warned the women who fell asleep at the wheel of her car on the A269, and the technology would have prevented her from ploughing into the innocent motorcyclist coming the other way, killing him instantly.
Surely a little twitch on the steering wheel is a small price to pay for saving a life???
 

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How is the new car market doing from a Dealer’s point of view ?? I think we have someone working at a dealers ( @Smiffy ??) what happens to all these reasonably good cars at the end of PCP. With the pressure to shift new rather than used, surely there is a ticking asset bomb somewhere in the supply chain
 

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Calm down ladies.. in less than 10 years, no need for driver training.. we will all be in driverless cars .. imagine that
That could be like a Tomorrow's World hover car. The promise of driverless cars but do we want them? It is going to be way past 10 years before they are common.
 

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How is the new car market doing from a Dealer’s point of view ?? I think we have someone working at a dealers ( @Smiffy ??) what happens to all these reasonably good cars at the end of PCP. With the pressure to shift new rather than used, surely there is a ticking asset bomb somewhere in the supply chain
Good quality used cars are always in short supply. The vast majority of PCP customers will re-new at end of term so we just take them in part exchange and can move them on fairly quickly. Very few just hand the car back. and if they do we have the option to buy them or the finance company will arrange to remarket them on the Peugeot dealership website. But they are not a problem....
 
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