My Swing Speed Journey

I have to strongly disagree here, it's frustrating when people with limited sports science or biomechanical knowledge make comments like this.

Assuming there's not some specific context I am missing, like he attempted a new PB 1 rep max deadlift just before the event, then doing deadlifts with proper form and loading shouldn't put you at any particular risk, and is likely to actually be less risky for your back than the golf swing, doubly so in non-elite players who generally have relatively poor strength and mobility. Most research out there will say that deadlifts if performed with good form, sensible loading and fatigue management are generally a positive for those with mild or moderate low back pain.
Going to the gym helped with my back. Before, sometimes after playing golf I had a bit of back pain and I noticed that doing squads and certain whole body exercises make me less prone to experience that pain.

Also technique is a must, I am a beginner and because of that I avoid certain exercises like deadlifts.
 
with proper form and loading
I think it’s the key, isn’t it?

No one knows how good EP is at deadlifts, not like he’s posting on r/checkmyform 😂 He was lifting sth around 140kg I believe…

I’m all up for deadlifts / squats etc as well as swing changes where necessary. Just highlighting that it’s sth that should be approached with care.
 
I think it’s the key, isn’t it?

No one knows how good EP is at deadlifts, not like he’s posting on r/checkmyform 😂 He was lifting sth around 140kg I believe…

I’m all up for deadlifts / squats etc as well as swing changes where necessary. Just highlighting that it’s sth that should be approached with care.
You would assume as a professional athlete he has a coach who has guided him through appropriate technique and loading though.

You should be careful whatever you do, but statistically you are more likely to be injured from golf than weight training. Without looking it up I suspect the injury rate for mundane things like getting out of a bath, or putting on your socks are probably up there too. Just for some reason these never come up as acts to be cautious of.
 
You would assume as a professional athlete he has a coach who has guided him through appropriate technique and loading though.
Interesting this comment is, we do assume as such but listening to their podcast it does look much more ad hoc than one imagines. I’m sure he had some professional strength coaching at some point but it doesnt sound he had any sort of specific “program”, he was doing a few things on occasion.

Tbf, his own assesment of the cause was more about the “new” swing. The other guy on the podcast (a professional sports broadcaster) mentioned their concern about Eddie’s lifting weights with a reference of his lifetime talking to physios. You should write in an email to them 🙃

It’s also the best Golf related podcast there is - two sports broadcasters and Eddie - give it a go if you haven’t yet.
 
The other guy on the podcast (a professional sports broadcaster) mentioned their concern about Eddie’s lifting weights with a reference of his lifetime talking to physios. You should write in an email to them 🙃
Professional sports broadcasters are from observation just as likely if not more likely to talk absolute nonsense about injury prevention as anyone else.
Andrew Cotter has a very melliflous voice and I'm sure is a decent chap but listening to him he doesn't have any great knowledge of Sports medicine or injury prevention.
 
Hi! I’ve taken a short break from speed training recently due to lack of time. I’ve been prioritizing hitting balls and going to the gym. That said, I still do some speed work once every 1–2 weeks just to maintain my form.

I wanted to share a few insights after playing a 3-day World Amateur Golf Ranking tournament:

1. Distance is a major differentiator.
The top players were all long hitters. Distance really sets apart the very good players from the average ones. There are exceptions, but usually some long-hitting "average" players (like myself, I was average overall, but top 5 in driving distance). Among the very best, though, being somewhat long off the tee seemed like a necessary condition to play at a top level.

2. I was hitting it farther than expected.
Maybe it was adrenaline or the high temperatures, but I was surprised by my distances. On one hole with no wind and a flat layout, I lost my first tee shot and had to re-hit while a crowd was waiting (I panicked a bit because I was under par). I chose a 3-wood for my second ball to avoid a bunker that starts at 265 yards. I hit it well, and we couldn’t find it either at first… it had flown 293 yards in the bunker! Makes me think the first ball may have reached the water way ahead, which was hard to believe.

3. Iron distances were also up.
I consistently used one club less than usual. For example, I hit controlled 9-irons 170 yards and could hit a very hard 6-iron from 220 on a par 5. I’m not sure what caused the increase—again, maybe adrenaline or conditions.

4. Day 3 fatigue affected shot shape.
On the last day, I was still hitting it long, but everything was drawing, even shots where I was trying to fade. I even made a quadruple bogey on a hole where going left was a no-no, I think fatigue played a role; my body isn’t used to the physical and mental load of three straight tournament days. It’s definitely something I need to train for, because I really enjoyed the format and want to keep competing in these tournaments!

That’s all! I truly believe that speed training has turned my golf around. It made a huge impact in both the fun and the results I had in this tournament!:)
 
I went to the opening of a new indoor golf venue last night, they had a longest drive bay going. Had 16 swings in total and probably averaged out around 99mph clubhead speed on the good shots, which was okay, but I would ideally like to see myself up around the 105, so I really do need to get back on it.

Actually going back on Monday to do a gap test for my full bag so it will be interesting to compare as last night was with clubs the venue provided and with no warm up.
 
Hi! I’ve taken a short break from speed training recently due to lack of time. I’ve been prioritizing hitting balls and going to the gym. That said, I still do some speed work once every 1–2 weeks just to maintain my form.

I wanted to share a few insights after playing a 3-day World Amateur Golf Ranking tournament:

1. Distance is a major differentiator.
The top players were all long hitters. Distance really sets apart the very good players from the average ones. There are exceptions, but usually some long-hitting "average" players (like myself, I was average overall, but top 5 in driving distance). Among the very best, though, being somewhat long off the tee seemed like a necessary condition to play at a top level.

2. I was hitting it farther than expected.
Maybe it was adrenaline or the high temperatures, but I was surprised by my distances. On one hole with no wind and a flat layout, I lost my first tee shot and had to re-hit while a crowd was waiting (I panicked a bit because I was under par). I chose a 3-wood for my second ball to avoid a bunker that starts at 265 yards. I hit it well, and we couldn’t find it either at first… it had flown 293 yards in the bunker! Makes me think the first ball may have reached the water way ahead, which was hard to believe.

3. Iron distances were also up.
I consistently used one club less than usual. For example, I hit controlled 9-irons 170 yards and could hit a very hard 6-iron from 220 on a par 5. I’m not sure what caused the increase—again, maybe adrenaline or conditions.

4. Day 3 fatigue affected shot shape.
On the last day, I was still hitting it long, but everything was drawing, even shots where I was trying to fade. I even made a quadruple bogey on a hole where going left was a no-no, I think fatigue played a role; my body isn’t used to the physical and mental load of three straight tournament days. It’s definitely something I need to train for, because I really enjoyed the format and want to keep competing in these tournaments!

That’s all! I truly believe that speed training has turned my golf around. It made a huge impact in both the fun and the results I had in this tournament!:)

What was the competition?

Maybe it deserves it's own thread, but I'd be really interested to hear about the competition, both how it was organised and how you went about taking it on.
 
What was the competition?
You're playing under pressure, in championship conditions (back tees at least), against top amateur talent who’ve come well-prepared for the course. Most of them are young, and about half are from other countries. And then there are players like me—more average 😄. The tournament spans at least three days of stroke play, often with a final-day cut depending on the number of participants. It's usually won around -12.

I did a lot to optimize my performance beyond just hitting balls—for example, preparing a course strategy in advance and having a plan to manage pressure. That’s long and off-topic so I won’t go into it here—but I can say it really paid off for my level. Here’s my final round scorecard. I made a quadruple bogey on my 4th hole (started on 10 since I wasn’t in the top group) and still have a lot of fun:)
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Totally recommended!
 
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Swing seems to have settled around 95mph currently. With a good smash factor i can carry about 230 or so, which im really happy with.
Had a bit of a slap dash start to level 3 due to hols and just playing golf ! But going to knuckle down and push for the ton. Also been playing some good stuff of late too!
 
Annoyingly I'm still suffering with wrist injuries (now plural, both in left wrist) I really need to find a good way of strengthening it. I'm actually going to be having an enforced two weeks away from golf, hoping this will take the inflammation away and then I can look to strengthen.
 
Not read past comments, but had some interesting feedback tonight. I had a lesson at a club with the whole indoor set up.

I was hitting 4 iron, and swing speed was 82-84 mph. However, I mentioned to him that when I do my practice swing with driver, people I never have played with are shocked at the speed of it. A lot faster than real thing. So, he said he could measure my practice swing with the 4 iron. It was 95mph.

So, we tried driver. Every time ball was there to be hit, my swing was around 98-104mph. I then did a practice swing, 117mph. Back and forth, my practice was consistently about 15mph faster.

So, I now need to find why on earth I can swing so much faster with no ball. Hopefully now he is changing technical issues for better striking, I'll start naturally feeling more free. And if that happens, I think I'd enjoy to see if swing speed training can benefit my speed any more, not something I ever really thought about
 
Wow thats some big difference! Potentially some massive distance gains too if your are so inclined
 
Wow thats some big difference! Potentially some massive distance gains too if your are so inclined
Yeah. Occasionally I've hit is easily 300 yards plus in summer, at 98-102mph tonight is was anything from 260ish to 295 total distance. But often I'm much less, as i reckon I don't get driver speed above 95mph (despite getting that with a 4 iron in practice swing). Too much going on in my head trying to square club face perhaps

But if I can somehow repeat my practice swing, I'd be interested in the result.

Weird thing is, my practice swing is fast, but feels so easy. My real swing is slow, but feels horrible, cramped and rushed. But just can't free real thing up, even on a range with no interest in where ball goes
 
Yeah. Occasionally I've hit is easily 300 yards plus in summer, at 98-102mph tonight is was anything from 260ish to 295 total distance. But often I'm much less, as i reckon I don't get driver speed above 95mph (despite getting that with a 4 iron in practice swing). Too much going on in my head trying to square club face perhaps

But if I can somehow repeat my practice swing, I'd be interested in the result.

Weird thing is, my practice swing is fast, but feels so easy. My real swing is slow, but feels horrible, cramped and rushed. But just can't free real thing up, even on a range with no interest in where ball goes
Yes getting a ball in the way really makes it different, I think we're ingrained to want to hit the ball straight
 
Not read past comments, but had some interesting feedback tonight. I had a lesson at a club with the whole indoor set up.

I was hitting 4 iron, and swing speed was 82-84 mph. However, I mentioned to him that when I do my practice swing with driver, people I never have played with are shocked at the speed of it. A lot faster than real thing. So, he said he could measure my practice swing with the 4 iron. It was 95mph.

So, we tried driver. Every time ball was there to be hit, my swing was around 98-104mph. I then did a practice swing, 117mph. Back and forth, my practice was consistently about 15mph faster.

So, I now need to find why on earth I can swing so much faster with no ball. Hopefully now he is changing technical issues for better striking, I'll start naturally feeling more free. And if that happens, I think I'd enjoy to see if swing speed training can benefit my speed any more, not something I ever really thought about
Interesting point, relatively recently Trackman added a “speed training” mode which does read the clubhead speed without hitting the ball. That’s the only reading device I’d trust on the absolute speed. Others are ok for measuring relative improvement but not very accurate otherwise.

In any case, it’s a good point to check the practice swing in this mode - will see if I can do it when on the sim next.
 
Not read past comments, but had some interesting feedback tonight. I had a lesson at a club with the whole indoor set up.

I was hitting 4 iron, and swing speed was 82-84 mph. However, I mentioned to him that when I do my practice swing with driver, people I never have played with are shocked at the speed of it. A lot faster than real thing. So, he said he could measure my practice swing with the 4 iron. It was 95mph.

So, we tried driver. Every time ball was there to be hit, my swing was around 98-104mph. I then did a practice swing, 117mph. Back and forth, my practice was consistently about 15mph faster.

So, I now need to find why on earth I can swing so much faster with no ball. Hopefully now he is changing technical issues for better striking, I'll start naturally feeling more free. And if that happens, I think I'd enjoy to see if swing speed training can benefit my speed any more, not something I ever really thought about
I think I'm about 102-103mph, but I'm sure my practice swings can be way quicker. It must be a mental thing, a hurdle to overcome that makes me dial back in fear of missing the ball.

To be fair, if I absolutely gun it I have been known to top the ball 50 yards so there is something in that!
 
I think I'm about 102-103mph, but I'm sure my practice swings can be way quicker. It must be a mental thing, a hurdle to overcome that makes me dial back in fear of missing the ball.

To be fair, if I absolutely gun it I have been known to top the ball 50 yards so there is something in that!
I fairly sure we'd all be pros if we could hit the ball with our practice swings 😂
 
I think I'm about 102-103mph, but I'm sure my practice swings can be way quicker. It must be a mental thing, a hurdle to overcome that makes me dial back in fear of missing the ball.

To be fair, if I absolutely gun it I have been known to top the ball 50 yards so there is something in that!
Yeah, the pro did say that a lot of people have quick practice swings, although it is usually a few mph. He was pretty shocked to see the difference in mine was constantly around 15mph, even when I tried to swing comfortably in the practice swing, rather than bust a gut.

I do have an unusual takeaway, and despite getting it back to a good position, I have no confidence where the club head it. So, I think I must be locking down parts of my swing when the ball is there, for fear of, like you say, missing the ball or massively mis-hitting it.

It is really weird though. In my real swing, especially last night in the studio, I really feel like I am putting every ounce of energy into it, and only getting up to 104 mph at most. But then when I do the practice swing, even when I was nice and relaxed about it, my lowest was still up at 112mph
 
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