Orikoru
Tour Winner
According to the specs on the Ping website, my driver head is 200g and the shaft is 50g. So that is considerably less, yeah.
My Swing Speed Journey
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sjw
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Just looked mine up. Is about the same, ~250g
VVega
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What about grip though? A standard MCC is 52, midsize - 66, jumbo - 82
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Fair point, hard to believe a grip weighs the same as a whole shaft but apparently it does, yes. Another 50g so that makes my driver 300g in total.What about grip though? A standard MCC is 52, midsize - 66, jumbo - 82
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Just weighed my M2 and it's 300g. I'm sure they said the red stick was 10% heavier roughly so sounds about right
sjw
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I was going to joke about the super heavy grip, but there we have it!What about grip though? A standard MCC is 52, midsize - 66, jumbo - 82
Springveldt
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I wonder what the swing weight on that is? It has so much weight in the grip it must have changed the swing weight massively.What about grip though? A standard MCC is 52, midsize - 66, jumbo - 82
Golf is fun
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I weighed the speedsticks and actual driver today numbers were:
| Club | Green | Blue | Red | Driver |
| Adult | 265g | 293g | 337g | 325g |
| Junior | 209g | 229g | 279g | 278g |
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I've tried beefing up at the gym but it actually slowed my swing speed the more I tried muscling the swing. I achieved my best distance by creating a good supinated release with my wrists and slowing my body rotation when it gets back around the address position.
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If you listen to the long drive guys, they say 80% of the training is gym work. You must have been doing it wrong.
In my opinion flexibility is the key you obviously want some physical strength but being super strong and having bad flexibility will result is not much distance. I keep saying I’m going to take up yoga my gym does free classes but not done it yet.
Golf is fun
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What did "beefing up" involve? A traditional bodybuilding split is unlikely to carryover much to a golf swing, training like an athlete for power more likely will. However power is nothing without control, so all the power in the world is useless if your swing isn't fundamentally sound.
mrio
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It may worse your speed because you stress more your body or you play less golf, but everything equal is very very beneficial for speed, only behind power training/ CNS training and doing actual speed training with the clubs.
mrio
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There is a lot of debate around flexibility. Some even say that not only flexibility has almost no correlatation with speed but also if you overdo it, it may have negative impact.
Yoga MUST be good in my opinion though, is much more than flexibility.
Golf is fun
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I don't think any research actually backs that up. The closest thing is that increasing your swing length will give you more speed as your rate of force production can remain the same but you have more time so the total force applied to the club and hopefully the ball is higher.
However, you could get the same by increasing your rate of force development (power).
I don't think their is any significant research to say one way or the other is better at this time.
mrio
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I will add that although you may increase your swing lenght with more flexibility you may loose other things like "spring power" by being more flexible. That source of power is used with sprinting and vertical jump but I do not remember the technical name. I think is more complex than more flexibility more speed, most of the time is not near a limiting factor.
VVega
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Saw on SAS golf him talking about hitting shots from pre-set shorter swing positions. Tried it and I can get the same distance (7i) as my normal swing from a static 9-10 o’clock position. No flexibility was used in making of those shots
Go figure. Feels like it forces you to generate speed with the lower body rather than upper torso/arms. Might try it on the course.
Golf is fun
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So anecdotally I'm a really good example of that in weightlifting. If you ask me to do an air squat it doesn't look that great, and my thighs barely break parallel, however put 200kg on a bar on my back and it looks great as I've been forced into the bottom position by the weight, but not only that I get the benefit of the stretch reflex and get a really strong muscle contraction to accelerate out the bottom position.
It's another area I think golf instruction gets wrong, the positions of the swing are achieved dynamically, so being able to statically achieve a position doesn't mean you can do it during a swing at speed. Additionally the forces acting on you during a swing are different to those acting on you in a static position. As an example if you go to a static top of backswing position, to make the club shallow and lag you have to move it into these positions, during a swing the inertia of the club will do it for you, and so the force you need to apply to it is different.
Golf is fun
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Saw on SAS golf him talking about hitting shots from pre-set shorter swing positions. Tried it and I can get the same distance (7i) as my normal swing from a static 9-10 o’clock position. No flexibility was used in making of those shots
Feels like it forces you to generate speed with the lower body rather than upper torso/arms. Might try it on the course.
Even if you didn't change where you generated force from, the timing of the force probably makes a difference. From a short swing you can be aggressive all the way to the ball, and there is likely to be less need need to reduce force to compensate for being out of position.
mrio
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I can sense some kind of engenieering background, but maybe is just good logic!
