My Mizuno Fitting Session

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I got to Clays and met up with Simon who was very very good. He immediately took me out on the range and got me to warm up by hitting about 30balls whilst he set up the equipment inside.

We then moved inside and he had a look at my clubs and asked what I was looked for, to which I replied 4-PW, a 3iron hybrid and two wedges.

Simon then moved me into the simulator bay and I hit my own 6 iron and then Simon chose the MX-200 and the MP-52 in 5 different shaft types the ones that I remember were the Nippon and Dynalite Gold XP Stiff which is the one that I hit best. Again I only hit 5 or 6 balls with each club. Then we moved onto the range and hit one of each out there (roughly 5 balls with each).

Anyway the club that was selected for me (based on the figures) was MX-200 with the Dynalite Gold Stiff shaft. Which I am a little disapointed with as I really liked the MP range and after hitting the MP-57's really well at AG last week I was sure that this was the club for me, but I suppose the stats dont lie!

This is causing me concern though and I'm not 100% certain about the MX-200's as my pro said to me after my Ping fitting session on Saturday, I was borderline G10 or i10 but as I progressed so much and my swing was getting better he saw me going down to single figures within 12mths, but he felt the i10 was a better option as I could work the ball better.

This is the dilema I now have do I ignore the current stats (tbh the MP-52 weren't too far behind) and go with the MP-52 based on my progression and what my Pro has said OR go with what has been recommended?

I then moved outside and onto the hybrid as the CLK is being discontinued (sorry I als forgot to mention that the MP-57's are also being discontinued), he tried me with the MP-Fli Hi (looks a lot like a traditional 3 iron), the MX-Fli Hi and the new MX-700. I hit all of them really well, in fact the MP had a very penetrating flight but we opted with the MX-700 due to its adaptability in the rough.

Then onto the wedges and Simon noticed that I have 56, 60 & 64 deg wedges and wanted to narrow down the gaps here as a PW is 46deg he advised a 51deg bent to 52deg and a 58deg as this gives me a consistent gap of 6deg (great advice here I thought) and these felt fantastic.

In summary I had a fantastic time and although I was absolutely shattered by the time I got there I had driven from Droitwich to Worcester, Cirencester, Gloucester, Tewkesbury and then to Wrexham i.e. 240miles and I think that this may have impacted on my swing as I wasn't hitting the ball well at all (especially on the range). A big thank you to Simon and Mizuno a 10/10 experience and would advise anybody to do it.
 
Simon the chap withthe glasses? Think it's the same guy I had.

The thing I really like about that place is you know it is 100% truthful advice because he is set to make no profit from you. Ok he may be on a slight commision if you buy from clays but you can. It from anywhere you like.

Glad you had a good day there. I need tobookback in for a loft/lie check, first one is free.

Not sure what I would do about your dilemma. If you go for 52's and don't get o withthem you will kick your self. But I would probably do it forthe ok g term investment. Good luck decided though! :D
 
Irons are a serious investment and you should only buy those that you feel comfortable with. Like you said the MP were only a little way behind the MX but you felt better with MPs, regardless of stats I think that this would show in your game. Out of the two sets, get the MP's :D.
 
These machines and fitting sessions dont lie so go with what they recommend for you.

Alchemy plays off of scratch or something very very low and he uses Ping Eye 2 irons which are classed as game improvement irons.

In my opinion you need to be a very consistant ball striker to swith to forged irons and see the benefits.
 
Garrido plays with MX200's.
That's good enough for me... ;)

I've just got the set with 50 & 55 degree matching MX wedges and an MX 20 degree Fli-Hi.
The wedges in particular are fantastic. After only one round I feel much more comfortable with them than I ever did my Callaway X forged.
 
The MX-200s are still forged if I remember correctly so will provide you with more than enough feedback. I think you would be wise to go with the more forgiving club.

I was like you borderline G10 / i10 when I bought my irons about a year ago and I don't regret getting the G10s at all. The good shots are still good its just the bad ones are better than they would have been. I have played to 9 over par on a round with the G10s so MX 200s are not going to prevent you playing to single figures if you are destined to do so, if this is your worry with them.
 
I have never understood this view that as your handicap comes down, you have to switch to clubs that are harder to hit. Surely if your h/cap comes down with the MX200s, then it is because you are hitting them well. Why would you then change? Plenty of pro's use GI cavity backs. Not all of them use blades, or even players c backs.

Use whatever suits your eye, and is easy to hit.
 
The MX-200s are still forged if I remember correctly so will provide you with more than enough feedback.

They are indeed (The MX100's are the cast version and more forgiving). The 200's don't look as clunky at address as some other GI irons. And the forging does make a difference to feel and noise. I can now slice one into the trees in near silence and it feels lovelier somehow
;)
 
I'd go for what they have recommended. As stated above, there is no logic to suddently switching to players irons as soon as your handicap comes down. The MP's will feel much worse than the MX's when you are not striking the ball as well.
 
PPE. I was looking forward to reading your report on this visit.

Strangely enough, my pro also reckons that I can get my handicap significently down. Vested interest in lessons etc!? Or me just being cynical again!? They are in business after all.

Truth be told, I could still use my MX19s as a single figure h'capper, but no doubt some part of me really would like a 'sexier' club like the MP52s as my h'cap does come down. As already has been said, why make life more difficult for yourself by using the more difficult clubs.

Put yourself in a spectators point of view, or a playing partners point of view. What makes you look better, a lower score (medal) or 'sexier' clubs? I know which I would choose. Name at the top of the leader board for me everytime.

The only person who cares (image wise) about what's sticking out of your bag is you. So don't worry about the GI image of the MX200s. You know it makes sense.

Good luck with your choice though. It's a nice 'problem' to have.
 
Garrido plays with MX200's.
That's good enough for me... ;)

I've just got the set with 50 & 55 degree matching MX wedges and an MX 20 degree Fli-Hi.
The wedges in particular are fantastic. After only one round I feel much more comfortable with them than I ever did my Callaway X forged.

I'll second that. You'll be able to shape these plenty well enough, mate. I play MX20's which are pretty much identical to these and can easily shape the ball if needed.
 
I would go with what you feel most comfortable with although don't rush your decision.

I'm currently playing mp30's which i'm happy with but i would like a nice new shiny set. Our society is playing at clays next month so i might book myself in for a session
 
My advice would be to take a long hard look at what is really best for your game over what vanity and pride dictate. As someone like Medwayjon will testify with his sexy titleist, when they go they are great but if you are having an off day struggling they are unforgiving.

What you need to weigh up is do you still need some forgiveness off your handicap which would probably mean going with Clays recommendation or do you feel that you really have the game to progress in which case there is nothing wrong with going for the other model.

I think the wedge set up is great. My PW is 46 and I have a 52, and 58 to get the 6 degree gap throughout. Hybrids are a bit more of a personal choice but unless you are Mizuno junkie and have to have a matching brand, the new cobra baffler dws (and the old version) and the TM burner (08 and 09) are all worth a hit.
 
Thanks for you views guys I think that I am leaning towards the MX-200's and will be speaking to my club pro for his opinion tomorrow.

However HID came out with a very good suggestion today in that she thought that as I was 50/50 why not keep my current irons for a couple of months, see if I actually do improve and then make a more informed decision?

Anyone got a coin!!
 
HID sounds like a wise lady. Give it a couple of months and see where your game is once the fairways and greens dry out. There isn't any rush and it is easy to suffer buyers lament if you dive in too quickly
 
Mizuno make the best irons - I use the MP32's they are very nice thinking about the new MP62's though has anyone here tried them

Hey Freddie

I tried the 62's along with the 52's and 57's when looking for my new set about 3 months ago. The 62's are a really ,really nice looking club and I wanted them however I just couldnt hit them as well as the 57's. I know you're a very low h/cap so you may be able to strike them more consistently than me.

I found my best shots with them didnt go as far as my worst with the 57's and I tried a few shaft variations. I also preferred the overall flight and feel of the 57's and thats the ones I bought.
 
Incidently. Was there any comment on the G10 driver since last week?

Yes. Simon was kind enough right at the end of the session and let me hit a few balls with it. Dont forget it was a 9deg regular.

The stats were showing a low launch angle of 7,8 &10 deg, however the spin rate was spot on (I was getting a lot of spin on my other drivers). The difference here was that I was hitting into a screen where as with the Ping guy I could see the ball flight on the range and the ball flight was pentrating and going past the 250 marker, now I'd never done that before with my other two drivers (see my sig.)

In summary it could well be the correct driver only time will tell, however Simon did feel that a high launch and low spin shaft i.e. ProLaunch would have probably been better.
 
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