Mourinho sacked!

[HomerJSimpson]

Ah, the age old excuse. So and so's got more money than us etc etc.

Didnt seem to hamper Liverpool a couple of seasons ago when they almost won the title. But for a meltdown at Palace they would probably have won the league despite such financial deficiencies.

Didnt seem to hamper Atletico Madrid in Spain a couple of years ago either.

Not saying it's the only reason but I'd argue it's a huge contributory factor. How much did Liverpool pay for Suarez including wages as he was instrumental in their oh so near season. It can happen as Atletico proved but far too often the bigger spenders in most leagues will win or go close.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You would imagine a thread comparing Arsene to Maureen would be called Arsene vs Maureen rather than Maureen sacked but hey what do I know.

Is it Post 28 when you started talking about Mourinho having an obsession with Wenger ?

So that's two Arsenals fans both bringing Wenger into the discussion

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You would imagine a thread comparing Arsene to Maureen would be called Arsene vs Maureen rather than Maureen sacked but hey what do I know.

You make a good point backed up by the micro summary of some and the he said this.... Wonder what a poll would show. Will Mourinho last all season, end of November or after the January window or will he not get sacked at all.

 

[Liverbirdie]

We all know Mike Dean won that match for them .......... then you say............, still got the glasses on i see

Hypocritical?

I wouldn't get rid of Mourinho if it's based on trophy likelihood, as he will trophies for them again, even if not this season, although still the CL and the FA (Fortunate, Arsene) cup to go for.

If it's for the tarnishing of the club, I would consider it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Hypocritical?

I wouldn't get rid of Mourinho if it's based on trophy likelihood, as he will trophies for them again, even if not this season, although still the CL and the FA (Fortunate, Arsene) cup to go for.

If it's for the tarnishing of the club, I would consider it.

Sorry Pete, old stuff, but you's gave Suarez plenty of leeway when he was tarnishing you lot, did you consider it then?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Sorry Pete, old stuff, but you's gave Suarez plenty of leeway when he was tarnishing you lot, did you consider it then?

Yes, after the Ivanovic bite, I wanted him gone at the time.

 

[sawtooth]

Why would he be going to Arsenal ?

What about Wenger ?

Do you think Wenger can go on forever?

I am talking about the successor to Wenger and Pep Guardiola is certainly someone on Arsenal's radar. Why wouldnt Pep come to Arsenal? We know that he has ambition to manage in the PL so who are the candidates? Top 4 obviously, maybe top 6. So that would include Arsenal along with the likes of Chelsea, Man U, Man City. Possiblly Liverpool and Spurs but unlikely as they are currently happy with their respective managers.

Regardless of what you might think it is a real possibility, you cannot rule it out. Pep could be the next Arsenal manager. Its not all about money and even if it was Arsenal could pay as much as anyone else to get the right man - post Wenger.

Wenger certainly will have a say about who comes in next and I would think that Pep would be the club's number one target.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you think Wenger can go on forever?

I am talking about the successor to Wenger and Pep Guardiola is certainly someone on Arsenal's radar. Why wouldnt Pep come to Arsenal? We know that he has ambition to manage in the PL so who are the candidates? Top 4 obviously, maybe top 6. So that would include Arsenal along with the likes of Chelsea, Man U, Man City. Possiblly Liverpool and Spurs but unlikely as they are currently happy with their respective managers.

Regardless of what you might think it is a real possibility, you cannot rule it out. Pep could be the next Arsenal manager. Its not all about money and even if it was Arsenal could pay as much as anyone else to get the right man - post Wenger.

Wenger certainly will have a say about who comes in next and I would think that Pep would be the club's number one target.

Pep's contract finishes at the end of the season

So that means it's very likely he is moving in the summer - so is this Wengers last season then ? Very much doubt that

And yes money does have a very big say - both City and Chelsea can offer him "unlimited" funds

So those two clubs are the two favourites IMO if Pep was coming to the Prem.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Yes, after the Ivanovic bite, I wanted him gone at the time.

Very honest fella, problem with the best is, they tend to have this odd side, Suarez, fantastic footballer, Jose, fantastic manager, both have had success and improved every team they've been involved in.
I can see Jose turning this around and having a big say in the season.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Very honest fella, problem with the best is, they tend to have this odd side, Suarez, fantastic footballer, Jose, fantastic manager, both have had success and improved every team they've been involved in.
I can see Jose turning this around and having a big say in the season.

I'll admit that I gave him another go after the Ivanovic bite - but once the Chellini incident happened he was gone and bar the odd few most wanted him gone - shame as it clearly looks like he did it to engineer a move away

 

[sawtooth]

I'll admit that I gave him another go after the Ivanovic bite - but once the Chellini incident happened he was gone and bar the odd few most wanted him gone - shame as it clearly looks like he did it to engineer a move away

You can't stand in the way of a player wanting to better himself. More money, champions league football every year, playing with other top players, the attractive location, etc.

No contest.

Things Liverpool FC cannot offer a player.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You can't stand in the way of a player wanting to better himself. More money, champions league football every year, playing with other top players, the attractive location, etc.

No contest.

Things Liverpool FC cannot offer a player.

Not many clubs can compete against the likes of Barce or others with more money and winning trophies regualry - just ask the players that have left Arsenal and gone on to be successful

Under no illusions of the situation we are in right now

 

[pbrown7582]

Monaco in for Jose with a £35m offer ? if roman really wants him gone no better chance than that?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You can't stand in the way of a player wanting to better himself. More money, champions league football every year, playing with other top players, the attractive location, etc.

No contest.

Things Liverpool FC cannot offer a player.

Yes you can, it takes someone with a spine, it's called a contract!!!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'll admit that I gave him another go after the Ivanovic bite - but once the Chellini incident happened he was gone and bar the odd few most wanted him gone - shame as it clearly looks like he did it to engineer a move away

To be honest, I thought the bite was a one off, i was more disgusted the way he embarrassed Kenny when he refused to shake Evra's hand, Kenny was made to look stupid on live TV.

 

[User62651]

Jose has proved he's a good manager in terms of results, particularly with Chelsea but Ancelloti, Di Matteo and Benitez also won big trophies for Chelsea primarily as they are a rich club and can buy a team in the same way Man City do. Inter were made excellent by Mancini, Real are Real so always good, Porto was what really put Mourinho in the spotlight winning ECL but that's a long time ago now and he doesn't seem to enjoy what he does these days - think he needs a good break from football and returning to a club he left before is not really a good move, Real is a bigger job so he stepped down imo. His behaviour this season just seems pathetic really, worse than usual, no class. Despite that I quite like him, not sure why.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Monaco in for Jose with a £35m offer ? if roman really wants him gone no better chance than that?

Obviously a personality stand off between the rich Russian who owns Chelsea and Mourinho......good be a good laugh if neither gives way.

 

[sawtooth]

Yes you can, it takes someone with a spine, it's called a contract!!!

You cant really force someone to stay, they'll sulk and probably become a disruptive influence. Why keep someone who would rather be off? It doesnt work. Contracts can be terminated and bought out.

 

[Tarkus1212]

No not yet but do you think he should be?

In my view he should be given the season at least to turn it around.
Club and some supporters have short memories if they force him out.

As a Chelsea fan I'd give Jose a 10 year contract and any players who don't want to play for him can do one.

 

[sawtooth]

As a Chelsea fan I'd give Jose a 10 year contract and any players who don't want to play for him can do one.

Support the man when he is down, that is exactly what a supporter should be doing. :thup: Only us rival supporters are allowed to ridicule and berate him.

Too many Chelsea fans want to get rid because they've got caught up in the media frenzy or they are on the glory bandwagon. They lost sight of how much success and good that Mourinho has done for the club.

I don't particularly like Mourinho but surely to God he has earned the right to have a poor season every now and again.