Mourinho sacked!

sawtooth said:
Support the man when he is down, that is exactly what a supporter should be doing. :thup: Only us rival supporters are allowed to ridicule and berate him:D.

Too many Chelsea fans want to get rid because they've got caught up in the media frenzy or they are on the glory bandwagon. They lost sight of how much success and good that Mourinho has done for the club.

I don't particularly like Mourinho but surely to God he has earned the right to have a poor season every now and again.
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Listening to the crowd im not sure how true a statement that it is - seems from what i have seen and heard that the fans are fully behind him
 
sawtooth said:
Too many Chelsea fans want to get rid because they've got caught up in the media frenzy or they are on the glory bandwagon. They lost sight of how much success and good that Mourinho has done for the club.
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Fans were fantastic towards him in the CL midweek and Jose acknowledge their support in the post match press conference so I would argue the majority are still behind him
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Listening to the crowd im not sure how true a statement that it is - seems from what i have seen and heard that the fans are fully behind him
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Not saying the majority aren't behind him I have no idea on that. Only saying that I have heard too many Chelsea supporters spouting off that they would rather he would leave before its too late.
 
Although money isnt an issue to Roman it would costba fortune to get rid of Mourinho. And realistically the only person who could replace him at the moment would be Diego Simeone, and he just signed a 5 year deal. So that would cost £35m to buy him out of that aswell iirc
 
sawtooth said:
Support the man when he is down, that is exactly what a supporter should be doing. :thup: Only us rival supporters are allowed to ridicule and berate him:D.

Too many Chelsea fans want to get rid because they've got caught up in the media frenzy or they are on the glory bandwagon. They lost sight of how much success and good that Mourinho has done for the club.

I don't particularly like Mourinho but surely to God he has earned the right to have a poor season every now and again.
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What an absolute load of tosh; if Chelsea fans want rid of Mourinho it is not because of the media or glory hunting, it's because his behaviour this season has been embarrassing & downright disgraceful on occasions. I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know but I'm not sure that can excuse some of what we've seen.

There's no doubt that he has been instrumental in a lot of Chelsea's success, but there's a lot more to it than just him. He was left the core of a winning squad by Claudio Ranieri, who receives little credit for it, but whose efforts are highly thought of by Chelsea fans. I'm delighted to see him doing so well at Leicester and look forward to seeing him receive a warm welcome back to the Bridge. Other managers have also brought us success; Hiddink got us an FA Cup win, Ancelotti got us a double, di Matteo got us the Champions League, and all of them achieved it without anything like the amount of opprobrium that Jose manages to single-handedly attract to the club.

Whilst he has brought success, he also brings baggage and his continuing refusal to give youth a chance will not help us in the future. Everyone's entitled to a bad day at the office, but please don't confuse the real reasons for the current discontent with him with the rot you'll read in the papers.
 
I've heard a few people on 606 calling themselves Chelsea fans and saying JM should go, and I imagine the same is probably happening on Talksport as well. The vast majority of fans I talk with want Jose to stay. He's earned our loyalty as far as I'm concerned.
 
Blue in Munich said:
What an absolute load of tosh; if Chelsea fans want rid of Mourinho it is not because of the media or glory hunting, it's because his behaviour this season has been embarrassing & downright disgraceful on occasions. I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know but I'm not sure that can excuse some of what we've seen.

There's no doubt that he has been instrumental in a lot of Chelsea's success, but there's a lot more to it than just him. He was left the core of a winning squad by Claudio Ranieri, who receives little credit for it, but whose efforts are highly thought of by Chelsea fans. I'm delighted to see him doing so well at Leicester and look forward to seeing him receive a warm welcome back to the Bridge. Other managers have also brought us success; Hiddink got us an FA Cup win, Ancelotti got us a double, di Matteo got us the Champions League, and all of them achieved it without anything like the amount of opprobrium that Jose manages to single-handedly attract to the club.

Whilst he has brought success, he also brings baggage and his continuing refusal to give youth a chance will not help us in the future. Everyone's entitled to a bad day at the office, but please don't confuse the real reasons for the current discontent with him with the rot you'll read in the papers.
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So you are talking for the whole of the Chelsea fan base?

For the past month or more have you not heard and read accounts of Chelsea supporters genuinely worried about losing out on top 4 ?

All I am saying is that there is a section of supporters that want Mourinho out because they cant see him turning it around. Accusing him of not having a clue anymore, no plan b, etc,. Yes some of them will probably think that he is an embarrassment and has acted disgracefully as well but not everyone will care about that.

Some are more concerned about not winning stuff and their status in the league. I know because I hear them, we all hear them.

Not a absolute load of tosh at all, perhaps you can take your head out of the sand and see for yourself Richard. Don't take my word for it.
 
sawtooth said:
So you are talking for the whole of the Chelsea fan base?

For the past month or more have you not heard and read accounts of Chelsea supporters genuinely worried about losing out on top 4 ?

All I am saying is that there is a section of supporters that want Mourinho out because they cant see him turning it around. Accusing him of not having a clue anymore, no plan b, etc,. Yes some of them will probably think that he is an embarrassment and has acted disgracefully as well but not everyone will care about that.

Some are more concerned about not winning stuff and their status in the league. I know because I hear them, we all hear them.

Not a absolute load of tosh at all, perhaps you can take your head out of the sand and see for yourself Richard. Don't take my word for it.
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You didn't say a section of supporters, you said too many Chelsea fans and you then went on to give the reasons why these too many Chelsea fans wanted rid and to give your opinion about their short memories and lack of gratitude.

I'm not sure where you bump into all these Chelsea fans, but drinking with them before the game, being in the stadium with them during the game and drinking with them or talking to them on the journey home after the game, there are a number who are concerned with the fact that he should be doing better with the players at his disposal and that we may struggle to get European football next year, but there are a far greater number that have concerns about other matters, particularly his behaviour this season.

There's a section of Arsenal fans who think Wenger should be gone for whatever reason, but as a Chelsea fan who doesn't know the full ins & outs, I'll look and listen but I'm nowhere near close enough to the club to comment on what the fans actually want, yet apparently you know more about it than people that go to Stamford Bridge week in week out.

So no Sean, whilst I don't speak for the whole of the Chelsea fan base, I'm a darn sight closer to what they think than you are, and I won't be taking your word for it anytime soon.
 
Blue in Munich said:
What an absolute load of tosh; if Chelsea fans want rid of Mourinho it is not because of the media or glory hunting, it's because his behaviour this season has been embarrassing & downright disgraceful on occasions. I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know but I'm not sure that can excuse some of what we've seen.

There's no doubt that he has been instrumental in a lot of Chelsea's success, but there's a lot more to it than just him. He was left the core of a winning squad by Claudio Ranieri, who receives little credit for it, but whose efforts are highly thought of by Chelsea fans. I'm delighted to see him doing so well at Leicester and look forward to seeing him receive a warm welcome back to the Bridge. Other managers have also brought us success; Hiddink got us an FA Cup win, Ancelotti got us a double, di Matteo got us the Champions League, and all of them achieved it without anything like the amount of opprobrium that Jose manages to single-handedly attract to the club.

Whilst he has brought success, he also brings baggage and his continuing refusal to give youth a chance will not help us in the future. Everyone's entitled to a bad day at the office, but please don't confuse the real reasons for the current discontent with him with the rot you'll read in the papers.
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This can be said about most managers in the top 6 though, it's easier to give the youth a chance in a winning side but when you're struggling for results and performances it's not an ideal time to give the youth a chance. That said he has had plenty of opportunities in the last 2 seasons to bring some younger players in.

He's also got some very expensive players out on loan in Caudrado and Salah which is surprising considering they never made many signings this summer.
 
sawtooth said:
You cant really force someone to stay, they'll sulk and probably become a disruptive influence. Why keep someone who would rather be off? It doesnt work. Contracts can be terminated and bought out.
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And then the next fella does the same, then the fella after. Hard to build a team then.

Stand up to them, other clubs may then follow, and try to wrestle some power back from the players.

Can you buy out any contract?

I know some can nowadays, but there are stipulations attached to them, and an age rule, I think?

How often have top players actually done this.........
 
Liverbirdie said:
And then the next fella does the same, then the fella after. Hard to build a team then.

Stand up to them, other clubs may then follow, and try to wrestle some power back from the players.

Can you buy out any contract?

I know some can nowadays, but there are stipulations attached to them, and an age rule, I think?

How often have top players actually done this.........
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Spot on, Berahino didn't win, so what if they sulk, there not complete idiots, they know nobody will risk buying someone who has sat in a squad doing nowt, there's a few who've prefered to stay in the reserves rather than take a pay cut.
 
Bring the foreigner rule back in. Up it to 5 foreigners in the team sheet. Need to do something to get homegrown players in the top teams again that appreciate football and their teams.

Look at the last manchester derby. Terrible! No hunger. These players are happy with a nil nil draw. Its a case of 'lets not get beat' instead of 'lets get into this so and so' now!!
 
Blue in Munich said:
You didn't say a section of supporters, you said too many Chelsea fans and you then went on to give the reasons why these too many Chelsea fans wanted rid and to give your opinion about their short memories and lack of gratitude.

I'm not sure where you bump into all these Chelsea fans, but drinking with them before the game, being in the stadium with them during the game and drinking with them or talking to them on the journey home after the game, there are a number who are concerned with the fact that he should be doing better with the players at his disposal and that we may struggle to get European football next year, but there are a far greater number that have concerns about other matters, particularly his behaviour this season.

There's a section of Arsenal fans who think Wenger should be gone for whatever reason, but as a Chelsea fan who doesn't know the full ins & outs, I'll look and listen but I'm nowhere near close enough to the club to comment on what the fans actually want, yet apparently you know more about it than people that go to Stamford Bridge week in week out.

So no Sean, whilst I don't speak for the whole of the Chelsea fan base, I'm a darn sight closer to what they think than you are, and I won't be taking your word for it anytime soon.
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If I hear even one or two Chelsea supporters wanting Mourinho sacked because they fear losing top 4 or that he has lost the plot then for me that is TOO MANY. I have listened to loads and its all over Twitter to read. #mourinho out and the like.

I don't know what you are disputing. I never said its what the majority are thinking and I don't profess to know anything about Chelsea other than what I read and hear from a distance.

Its a fact that some Chelsea supporters are adopting a similar ungrateful stance, wanting Mourinho to be sacked. Personally I don't like to see that , Lord knows I have seen enough of it with my club and Wenger.

Don't get me wrong, it's good to see Chelsea where they are, but those relatively few supporters should shut up and get behind the manager.
 
sawtooth said:
So you are talking for the whole of the Chelsea fan base?

For the past month or more have you not heard and read accounts of Chelsea supporters genuinely worried about losing out on top 4 ?

All I am saying is that there is a section of supporters that want Mourinho out because they cant see him turning it around. Accusing him of not having a clue anymore, no plan b, etc,. Yes some of them will probably think that he is an embarrassment and has acted disgracefully as well but not everyone will care about that.

Some are more concerned about not winning stuff and their status in the league. I know because I hear them, we all hear them.

Not a absolute load of tosh at all, perhaps you can take your head out of the sand and see for yourself Richard. Don't take my word for it.
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Absolutely no evidence of that on Wednesday, his name was sang out by all of the crowd many times with everyone standing up also to show him support, which he acknowledged a couple of times, do you work for a red top during the day :smirk:
 
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