Minneapolis right now.

fundy said:
well my dictionary says the definition of a criminal is someone who has committed a crime, has nothing to do with being charged or the verdict in the case, the act of committing the crime makes you a criminal not what happens in court
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This is from the Legal Dictionary.
criminal

1 a person convicted of CRIME.
2 of, involving, or guilty of CRIME.
 
JamesR said:
So if I go out and rob a bank and never get caught, charged and convicted, I’m not a criminal ?
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Not in the legal terms, No. You are a Bank Robber but have not been found guilty or convicted. You are not guilty of committing a crime or a criminal unless you are found guilty or pleaded guilty and been convicted.
These semantics dont detract from the accusation that 'Many' Policemen are criminals whether they are convicted or not. If you believe it to be true then please explain what you base that on.
 
SocketRocket said:
Let's stop playing games with semantics. I ask again, if you believe Many police are criminals then please justify it. How many.
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I didn’t say many were , just that there were criminals amongst the police forces of the world
 
JamesR said:
I didn’t say many were , just that there were criminals amongst the police forces of the world
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No, Kellfire said there were 'Many' Policemen guilty of crime'. I challenged him and you challenged me ?

Forget it, I've lost the will to Iive with it.
 
SocketRocket said:
No, Kellfire said there were 'Many' Policemen guilty of crime'. I challenged him and you challenged me ?

Forget it, I've lost the will to Iive with it.
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No, I just asked if you were agreeing or questioning. Your punctuation didn’t make it clear.
 
Not sure if this is the correct thread but the police officer who killed George Floyd has had his charge upped to 2nd degree murder and the other three police officers have been charged with aiding him. Good news.
 
gmc40 said:
Just to address your points;

1. Not splitting hairs, you stated the majority voted for Trump which wasn’t true so I corrected you

2. You referred to the man in the video stating you didn’t know who he was. I told you he was a very vocal trump supporter. This may not matter to you but to me it does. Trump supporter = no credibility therefore opinion not valid. I did actually watch the video for about a minute and had to turn it off. The man’s a nob.

3. I didn’t say they were stupid, I said some are. The others who voted for him are in it for their own self interests or because he legitimises their prejudices. Speaking of stupid Trump supporters though;

Trump Rally
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To make such generalist comments about Republicans is stupid as is theresponse - there are "some" stupid people everywhere. You are welcome to link the person to Trump - i don't care and stated so. Very insightful for you to understand that all the non stupid people who voted republica are infact selfish or prejudiced - all tens of millians of them. Anyway - can't be bothered to respond anymore on your points here
 
PNWokingham said:
To make such generalist comments about Republicans is stupid as is theresponse - there are "some" stupid people everywhere. You are welcome to link the person to Trump - i don't care and stated so. Very insightful for you to understand that all the non stupid people who voted republica are infact selfish or prejudiced - all tens of millians of them. Anyway - can't be bothered to respond anymore on your points here
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My first comment referred to people who continue to vote for them and my second referred to people voting for Trump. I stand by both comments. Anyone who votes for the GOP/Trump in November would fall into one of those three categories. The only way the republicans would gain any credibility would be to get rid but that’s looking unlikely.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
So Derek Chauvin has now had his charges upgraded to 2nd Degree Murder and the other policeman have all been charged with adding and abetting 2nd degree murder and manslaughter

Some big steps forward

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52915019
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Reading this I am not sure 2nd degree murder sticks. It clearly is 3rd at least, but did he really intend to kill him? And can intend be proven?

But it’s good that the others face charges, they should have intervened.
 
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