Minneapolis right now.

[IanM]

Police now being attacked by Antifa in London.

But I guess that's ok by some on here.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

So we've somehow made systemic racism in the US into a problem of the left and antifa.
Got to say Trumps tactics of creating a bogeyman works wonders every time.

 

[Fish]

Police now being attacked by Antifa in London.

But I guess that's ok by some on here.

And if this is true and happened today, then the looting is only hours away!

 

[gmc40]

Poor you. The majority of US electorate voted for Trump - many in reality for the party not the individual - so that leaves a lot of the world's biggest economy without a say in your view

Incorrect. The majority actually voted for Clinton.

Interesting comment re: voting for the party and not the individual. The GOP’s credibility is pretty much shot after the way they’ve fallen into line behind Trump. People will continue to vote for them if they are stupid, it benefits them personally or the party legitimises their prejudices, that will always happen.

Hopefully enough will see the light and vote against him/his party in November. And with any luck he’ll end up in jail.

 

[SocketRocket]

Not sure if you are questioning this or agreeing, but it can’t be a surprise that there are Policemen who break the law regularly.
Whether they illegally kill people, take money for protection, work for organised crime etc.
But far from the majority of course.

I am questioning the statement that 'Many' Policemen are criminals. To me that's a ridiculous statement. I would suggest that 'No' Policemen are criminals or if they are the numbers must be miniscule. To be a criminal they should have been found guilty of a crime, not a suspect but guilty, as such how many such Policemen would stay in their jobs, I suggest not many or even none, well not in any major democracy.
Regarding Policemen that break the law, there must be some that do but again 'Many' must be an exaggeration. These type of debates always seem to use exaggerated accusations to defend a particular point of view and I believe this is what is happening here, we have seen suggestions here that what happened 'Is America' as if the whole population or probably 'White population' are gun carrying, racist red necks, it's just sensationalist talk and helping nothing.

 

[SocketRocket]

And if this is true and happened today, then the looting is only hours away!
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As if we dont have enough to deal with already.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

359 People..............

Protests in London, attacking Police, no social distancing.

Disgusted by people of all race/colour/religion in this Country today.

359 People................

Just remember who it is that runs towards the attackers next time terrorists attack and who has to try and rebuild the bodies in the hospitals.

It’s an insult to all our Emergency Services, probably find most of those protesting today will be out clapping on thursday night.

359 People.................

 

[Kellfire]

so, I apologise... so, you just said Nazis stopped being socialist when your website says so, and the communism is "the best form of government" but when causes uniform poverty and death, we'll call it something else.

I am now suitably educated, many thanks

You’re really not very good at this understanding thing.

 

[Kellfire]

The majority of US electorate voted for Trump -

No they didn’t. Facts aren’t your strongpoint today.

 

[PNWokingham]

Incorrect. The majority actually voted for Clinton.

Interesting comment re: voting for the party and not the individual. The GOP’s credibility is pretty much shot after the way they’ve fallen into line behind Trump. People will continue to vote for them if they are stupid, it benefits them personally or the party legitimises their prejudices, that will always happen.

Hopefully enough will see the light and vote against him/his party in November. And with any luck he’ll end up in jail.

ok - splittinh hairs. Change to number of people neede to win the election. But that is not my point. I was not refering to Trump earlier only about the man who did the video. To repeat my point - it doesn't matter if he supports Trump or not, i was commenting on what he said. You bring in Trump and say that amnyone who is Republican should have no say as they are stupid because they voted for him. Not worth debating that point

 

[fundy]

I am questioning the statement that 'Many' Policemen are criminals. To me that's a ridiculous statement. I would suggest that 'No' Policemen are criminals or if they are the numbers must be miniscule. To be a criminal they should have been found guilty of a crime, not a suspect but guilty, as such how many such Policemen would stay in their jobs, I suggest not many or even none, well not in any major democracy.
Regarding Policemen that break the law, there must be some that do but again 'Many' must be an exaggeration. These type of debates always seem to use exaggerated accusations to defend a particular point of view and I believe this is what is happening here, we have seen suggestions here that what happened 'Is America' as if the whole population or probably 'White population' are gun carrying, racist red necks, it's just sensationalist talk and helping nothing.

No, to be a criminal they only need to have committed a crime

 

[PNWokingham]

No they didn’t. Facts aren’t your strongpoint today.

you win - actually something you said is right - i stand corrected. But he won the majority of electoral votes in the election. Does not change the point.

 

[SocketRocket]

No, to be a criminal they only need to have committed a crime

I disagree, it's someone charged with and found guilty of a crime. If someone is charged with a crime and found innocent they are not a criminal.

 

[gmc40]

ok - splittinh hairs. Change to number of people neede to win the election. But that is not my point. I was not refering to Trump earlier only about the man who did the video. To repeat my point - it doesn't matter if he supports Trump or not, i was commenting on what he said. You bring in Trump and say that amnyone who is Republican should have no say as they are stupid because they voted for him. Not worth debating that point

Just to address your points;

1. Not splitting hairs, you stated the majority voted for Trump which wasn’t true so I corrected you

2. You referred to the man in the video stating you didn’t know who he was. I told you he was a very vocal trump supporter. This may not matter to you but to me it does. Trump supporter = no credibility therefore opinion not valid. I did actually watch the video for about a minute and had to turn it off. The man’s a nob.

3. I didn’t say they were stupid, I said some are. The others who voted for him are in it for their own self interests or because he legitimises their prejudices. Speaking of stupid Trump supporters though;

Trump Rally

 

[fundy]

I disagree, it's someone charged with and found guilty of a crime. If someone is charged with a crime and found innocent they are not a criminal.

well my dictionary says the definition of a criminal is someone who has committed a crime, has nothing to do with being charged or the verdict in the case, the act of committing the crime makes you a criminal not what happens in court

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I disagree, it's someone charged with and found guilty of a crime. If someone is charged with a crime and found innocent they are not a criminal.

So if I go out and rob a bank and never get caught, charged and convicted, I’m not a criminal ?

 

[gmc40]

you win - actually something you said is right - i stand corrected. But he won the majority of electoral votes in the election. Does not change the point.

No he didn’t. Try again

 

[IanM]

So if I go out and rob a bank and never get caught, charged and convicted, I’m not a criminal ?

Depends. Are you an anarchist?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Depends. Are you an anarchist?

I’m anti-facist & believe that Black Lives Matter

 

[IanM]

I’m anti-facist & believe that Black Lives Matter

Me too. Hope you realise what I meant...

I marched with the ANL back in the day, that got into issues trying to control unwanted elements that attached themselves...my grandad got a record for bashing black shirts in the East End before the War... Thought I'd heard most things but I'm really shocked by what I've read on here today.... from several regulars. Or should that be horrified?