Minneapolis right now.

Yes, you are right. I’d forgotten Hilary won the popular vote.

I checked the odds last night for the November election. Despite taking a huge nosedive in the recent polls, Trump is still an odds-on favourite to win against Biden.
 
Yes, you are right. I’d forgotten Hilary won the popular vote.

I checked the odds last night for the November election. Despite taking a huge nosedive in the recent polls, Trump is still an odds-on favourite to win against Biden.

Didn't Biden Cr*p himself on live TV? And is accused of sexual assault? And is generally creepy?

Why is it the US can't put up one normal candidate.

(before people get irate, I have no horse in the race. It just astounds me)
 
Yes, you are right. I’d forgotten Hilary won the popular vote.

I checked the odds last night for the November election. Despite taking a huge nosedive in the recent polls, Trump is still an odds-on favourite to win against Biden.

Sort of sums the country up really! I want to feel sorry for them but it’s self inflicted. Like every time there is a mass shooting. Condolences, but come on ffs, sort yourself out!
 
Didn't Biden Cr*p himself on live TV? And is accused of sexual assault? And is generally creepy?

Why is it the US can't put up one normal candidate.

(before people get irate, I have no horse in the race. It just astounds me)

Trump has paid off multiple people to stop paedophilia accusations against him. Some of them corroborated by witnesses.
 

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Trump has paid off multiple people to stop paedophilia accusations against him. Some of them corroborated by witnesses.


That's not what I asked, it just proves my point!

Do research and put a normal, bright and articulate person with no skeletons in their closet.


(Edit: Lets post in the other thread to stop it getting derailed. This is more important I feel).
 
Well things are only going to get worse with stuff like this doing the rounds.

 
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At least George Floyd's family are making a plea for peace https://news.sky.com/story/george-f...-and-vote-rather-than-cause-violence-11998827

Whether the crowds listen or the rent-a-crowds will continue the civil unrest remains to be seen. The strongest part of the message though has to be Stop thinking your voice don't matter, and vote." If it acts as a rallying call, what impact will that have on Trump's campaign and is it too little too late to hope he won't get re-elected
 
At least George Floyd's family are making a plea for peace https://news.sky.com/story/george-f...-and-vote-rather-than-cause-violence-11998827

Whether the crowds listen or the rent-a-crowds will continue the civil unrest remains to be seen. The strongest part of the message though has to be Stop thinking your voice don't matter, and vote." If it acts as a rallying call, what impact will that have on Trump's campaign and is it too little too late to hope he won't get re-elected


Trump has no control of the state police (as far as i'm aware?)

He does have control of all other matters that effect these people tho. It'll sadly most likely come down to who has the best spin team.
 
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Summary of video
White woman seen punching white officer, black officer then decks her with a right hook from behind.

Excessive police force? Yes
Could he have restrained her from behind without punching her? Yes
Should the copper be dealt with as a result? Yes
Does it appear to be racially motivated? Absolutely not.

Will it cause things to escalate? Only if people are stupid enough to form their opinions solely on skin colour and not facts in video footage.

That video has nothing to do with racial crimes, black lives or anything other than to highlight the fact US Police force deal with crimes with excess force and need to be reigned in and taught correct restraint techniques and be less emotionally involved in the situations at hand..

Think that's a fair summary of it..
 
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It’s a video of an American city street at night, with police cars and policemen in the middle of a street dealing with rioting. A black woman is apprehended by the police, she punches a white officer twice, and then a huge black cop decks her with a blindside haymaker. She’s out cold, laying in the road. Shocking stuff.
 
Summary of video
White woman seen punching white officer, black officer then decks her with a right hook from behind.

Excessive police force? Yes
Could he have restrained her from behind without punching her? Yes
Should the copper be dealt with as a result? Yes
Does it appear to be racially motivated? Absolutely not.

Will it cause things to escalate? Only if people are stupid enough to form their opinions solely on skin colour and not facts in video footage.

That video has nothing to do with racial crimes, black lives or anything other than to highlight the fact US Police force deal with crimes with excess force and need to be reigned in and taught correct restraint techniques and be less emotionally involved in the situations at hand..

Think that's a fair summary of it..

So more whataboutary and attempts at deflection away from the real issue currently being seen and escalating
 
Theres not much hope in changing things when everyone wants to be part of a division. African Americans, Irish Americans, Jewish Americans et al. Its deeper than black and white but theirs no doubt that untill people can start accepting each other as equals there will not be any healing. Ethnicity sucks.
 
Theres not much hope in changing things when everyone wants to be part of a division. African Americans, Irish Americans, Jewish Americans et al. Its deeper than black and white but theirs no doubt that untill people can start accepting each other as equals there will not be any healing. Ethnicity sucks.

The more I read that the more I struggle with it

Should people forget their history and just become “American “ ? Would that have saved this man or was it his skin colour the reason why the policeman treated him the way he did.

Why should it be a “Division “ - people should be able to get along with each other and keep their history and be proud of it. But then it always seems the be the “white true blood american/brit” who always seems to look down at Ethnicity as if it’s a bad thing when i believe it’s part of the beauty of the human race.
 
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