match play

[jock]

firstly well done lee westwood, secondly a question came up today, In match play,if it's level after 18 holes does the higher handicap player's shot's restart if the match is drawn after 18 holes and they go down the first, second etc etc, my belief is that is's a club/society ruling to wheather they continue or not
thanks

 

[viscount17]

if he's entitled to a shot then he gets it.

it's why it's recommended that a hole that's likely to be used for a play-off hole (typically the holes near the clubhouse), isn't given a low SI.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Don't talk to me about matchplay. I played in the winter knockout (4ball better ball) and my partner and I got murdered 8&7 against a 22 and 16 handicapper. Now bear in mind I eagled our 5th and only managed a half (birdie nett eagle from the 16 handicapper) and that they had already birdied (net eagled) the 3rd and birdied the 4th it will come as no surprise we turned 6 down.

I had scored the equivalent of 17 stableford points (including two holes where I wouldn't have scored points) so was playing ok. We lost to a nett birdie on 10 and then both hit it to within 15 feet on the 11th and had shots so my partners nett par wasn't enough. In the end the 16 handicapper had the equivalent of 45 points (we didn't bother with concessions once the match ended so he holed most putts anyway) and the 22 handicapper shot 44. I have to say my game trailed away as there wasn't any competitive edge and to be honest I hacked it home.

Had we made a fight of it and taken it to extra time any shots received down our first would have been received again

 

[DMC]

I no longer play in singles matchplay,unless its a scratch match. You soon tire of giving people a shot a hole only to see them never miss a fairway,pitch them stiff,and pepper pins on par 3 holes.

 

[DCB]

"Hole-by-hole Play-off (sudden-death). When extra holes are played in handicap competitions, strokes should be taken in accordance with the Handicap Stroke Index."

So yes, the strokes are taken at the relevant holes oin a sudden death play off

 

[Junior]

Do these guy's not play in the summer medal comps ??? Or did you just catch them both on a good day???

 

[sneakyweeone]

Ouch Homer. That's a sore one to take.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

These guys do play regularly throughout the year in medals and stablefords so they aren't protecting their handicaps. We played them last year and got done at the 17th which was fair enough as my partner and I weren't playing great and were just holding on. I've a feeling they had a good run in this event last year. Going back to the "is winning everything thread" although I was hacked off with my own general performance in terms of the way I hit it, I couldn't really be upset with the result as they both played excellent golf throughout.

 

[Dodger]

Homer it sounds like you didn't get much help from your partner?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If I'm being honest......... NO - I think his half at the 8th was his contribution. I was doing ok and I never mind losing a hole to a birdie but did feel aggrieved when an eagle only got a half

 

[evahakool]

I no longer play in singles matchplay,unless its a scratch match. You soon tire of giving people a shot a hole only to see them never miss a fairway,pitch them stiff,and pepper pins on par 3 holes.

Surprised you dont play singles matchplay your obviously a good player off 5 would have thought you would give anyone a game no matter what their h/c.

 

[DCB]

It's when you mark up the holes on your card that your opponent is stroking on and you find that they're double stroking on some that it starts to stick in the throat

Their opening tee shot is usually followed by the "don't normally hit it that well" comment. Then you know it's going to be a long round

 

[evahakool]

Still dont follow your logic players your giving 2 shots on are going to be high h/c and therefore should not be as consistant.

 

[pigmeister]

Have got to agree with you, they always seem to have a good day don`t they. Our winter league comp is a better ball matchplay, 28 h`cap limit, 3/4 allowance. This doe`s not change even when we play off the temp mats and on temp greens with buckets in the frost. 18 h`cap should be the limit in better ball matchplay, then they would have to try on every shot instead of living in a comfort zone where they get shots on most holes.

 

[brendy]

Their opening tee shot is usually followed by the "don't normally hit it that well" comment. Then you know it's going to be a long round

Or a very short one haha.

 

[Herbie]

If you want a hard time in matchplay, its the society comps you need to play. .

Myself, I prefer scratch matchplay, or club comps where you know that at least most of the h/caps are genuine.

 

[Golfmmad]

or club comps where you know that at least most of the h/caps are genuine.

I'm glad you mentioned this Herbie, there's sometimes a big difference between "club" and "society" handicaps.

Sometimes low handicappers tend to forget how inconsistent high handicappers (genuine club players) can be. My GIR stats are not good, even on a shortish par 4 if i've had a good drive the chances of being on the green in two are poor. So the holes where I have 2 shots on are lost because of this. On long par 4's there's not much chance of reaching the green in less than 3, another shot dropped

Also the better player always hits the ball further and therefore has birdie opportunities on par 5's, where I'm happy to walk off with a 6 or 7.

As the OP suggests, lower handicappers should see it as more of a challenge rather than worry about how many shots they are giving.

Not wanting to upset anybody here, but just the way I see it.

Golfmmad.

 

[Imurg]

You can get a pair playing well between them. For example, when CVG and me played the PGA NAtional the other week, we were level par between us for the first 15 holes - that's a 10 and a 15 handicap. We both played a little over handicap in the end but those first 15 holes would have seen off many others.
I stopped playing sigles Matchplay years ago for the same reasons as above. PLaying off 8 I was giving 20 to a "chopper" who then blasted me 6&5 by making 6 pars. Having to birdie for a half gets a bit tedious. I once won a doubles matchplay against 2 17 handicappers by having to eagle a long par 5 for a half. One of them birdied it with a shot - eagle for a half!!! And many a time I've faced a hole-in-one for a half.

 

[viscount17]

Also the better player always hits the ball further and therefore has birdie opportunities on par 5's, where I'm happy to walk off with a 6 or 7.

not true. change further to more consistently or more accurately and I'll agree.
I know several high handicappers who hit a mile but can't rely on staying on the same hole.