Madeleine McCann - Is this the end?

[Lord Tyrion]

Can anyone recall seeing the "distinctive campervan"? Seriously. 13 years. White van with yellow trim - guy down the road has one!

I decided to check on Google photos to see where we were on holiday that year. I looked at the pictures and then tried to recollect anything other than moments we had as a family on that holiday. Not a single thing could I remember. Now I appreciate anyone on holiday in that resort in Portugal will have certain memories of their time there that year in a way that the rest of us wont but hoping they include a camper van and a car is stretching it big time. Then again, if you don't ask you don't get.

Good luck to the police, I wish them well in ending this.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Unfortunately that’s what happens when you leave your small child alone in a foreign country whilst you go and have a meal with friends. They have also be very lucky to be able to have a significant amount of resources available to them To continue the search many other parents have lost children through no fault of their own and nothing done.

I made no judgement on what they did - other than to observe that we have all made mistakes in life and we have not suffered grim consequences that we might have - and often that has been simply through our good fortune. And having their own resources and being able to raise money to fund their search is not a crime.

 

[Captainron]

Parents leaving her alone mean they were completely at fault and nothing will ever change my view on that.

This has been the most high profile missing persons case in the 20 years I have lived in the UK.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I made no judgement on what they did - other than to observe that we have all made mistakes in life and we have not suffered grim consequences that we might have - and often that has been simply through our good fortune. And having their own resources and being able to raise money to fund their search is not a crime.

It hasn't been a case of using their own resources.

The State has continued to provide funds and support for this Missing Person inquiry for a much longer time than many similar cases.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I made no judgement on what they did - other than to observe that we have all made mistakes in life and we have not suffered grim consequences that we might have - and often that has been simply through our good fortune. And having their own resources and being able to raise money to fund their search is not a crime.

A great deal amount of money was government funded. If the funding levels are the same for every single child who goes missing let alone one where there is clear case of neglect then there is nothing to complain about but it’s not. There is a lot wrong with the whole incident and imo if the parents were different then the incident would be treated differently.

Their neglect wasn’t a mistake it was a choice and one that other parents would have been charged over

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Don't forget it wasn't just 1 child they left alone that evening it was 3, the other 2 were younger than their sister.

They therefore neglected all 3 of their children, to their massive cost.

Obviously they live every day with the consequences of their actions and I truly hope that one day they get closure.

However as a parent I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for them I'm afraid.

 

[chrisd]

Don't forget it wasn't just 1 child they left alone that evening it was 3, the other 2 were younger than their sister.

They therefore neglected all 3 of their children, to their massive cost.

Obviously they live every day with the consequences of their actions and I truly hope that one day they get closure.

However as a parent I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for them I'm afraid.

I absolutely agree Pieman, but I really hope that the suggestion that they killed her themselves is finally proved to be a scandalous lie.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Don't forget it wasn't just 1 child they left alone that evening it was 3, the other 2 were younger than their sister.

They therefore neglected all 3 of their children, to their massive cost.

Obviously they live every day with the consequences of their actions and I truly hope that one day they get closure.

However as a parent I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for them I'm afraid.

Because no other parent EVER, left their child/children unattended while they went out.

Of course they bare some responsibility, they have the guilt I hope no other parent ever has to face. But until the truth comes out I won’t sit in judgement.

“There for the grace of god”

 

[Beezerk]

I'm assuming from what I've read the abduction was at least partly planned, if indeed he is the guilty man.
Made a phone call in the area a couple of hours before she was taken, registered his car in a friend's name the day after Madeleine went missing, has a history of breaking into hotels and sexual assaults on young girls ?
No wonder the coppers are all over him, I wonder why he was removed as a suspect years ago?

 

[SocketRocket]

It's just a sad tragic case.
Yes, the McCanns made a terrible error leaving their children alone. Yes, they deserve to take the blame for doing so. However, we all must surely understand that they have paid a terrible price for their error and have to live with the dread and fear of what happened to their little girl for the rest of their lives, what a horrible thing to endure. Unfortunatly there seems to be a certain amount of schadenfreude at large with some people.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Because no other parent EVER, left their child/children unattended while they went out.

Of course they bare some responsibility, they have the guilt I hope no other parent ever has to face. But until the truth comes out I won’t sit in judgement.

“There for the grace of god”

Never left my children unattended when they were that age.

If children are at an age when they cannot look after themselves why would you, especially in a foreign country?

I agree with you they are living every day with the guilt and consequences of their actions that night and that is punishment enough. I'm not entirely convinced we're ever going to get the truth of what happened.

 

[Hogieefc]

Oh dear the police at Scotland yard will be well pissed off, no more jollies to Portugal allegedly chasing up some new information ( on the piss ).

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Previous threads on this subject have been shut down, but only because totally unsubstantiated allegations were made in respect of the McCann’s active involvement in her disappearance.

These allegations opened GM up to various potential legal issues , this is why the threads were closed.

Hopefully this thread will not go down that route.

My personal take is that they committed a grave error of judgement in leaving the children unattended, they will have that guilt with them forever. But complicit? no

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Never left my children unattended when they were that age.

If children are at an age when they cannot look after themselves why would you, especially in a foreign country?

I agree with you they are living every day with the guilt and consequences of their actions that night and that is punishment enough. I'm not entirely convinced we're ever going to get the truth of what happened.

Because hindsight is a wonderful thing, I never left my kid at that age either, but to deny that hundreds if not thousands did while they went out and “got away with it” would be disingenuous imo, people on holiday did take risks they normally wouldn’t, they believe their plan will be ok, the area is safe etc.

Charging them with neglect or whatever doesn’t change anything in regards Madelaine, she should stay the focus until we find out what happened.

 

[AmandaJR]

I think if the parents had been open and honest and admitted they were wrong to leave their children home alone then there would have been more sympathy. They just came across as in denial about their culpability and, for me, were very hard to warm to and feel the normal levels of sympathy for parents going through absolute hell.

Then keeping it in the news for so long where, as has been mentioned, many missing children just get forgotten about...all kind of added to their priveleged position. That very position of privelege adds to the lack of emotion towards them.

They have paid the heaviest price imaginable for their neglect...wouldn't wish it on anyone.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think if the parents had been open and honest and admitted they were wrong to leave their children home alone then there would have been more sympathy. They just came across as in denial about their culpability and, for me, were very hard to warm to and feel the normal levels of sympathy for parents going through absolute hell.

Then keeping it in the news for so long where, as has been mentioned, many missing children just get forgotten about...all kind of added to their priveleged position. That very position of privelege adds to the lack of emotion towards them.

They have paid the heaviest price imaginable for their neglect...wouldn't wish it on anyone.

So they should of just gone away and disappeared so the world can forget her?

Surely for all the guilt they carry they should be commended for keeping the search for their daughter going?

 

[gmc40]

It hasn't been a case of using their own resources.

The State has continued to provide funds and support for this Missing Person inquiry for a much longer time than many similar cases.

What similar cases? Other than Ben Needham has there been any?

 

[User20205]

Do we need a repeat of the 2013 thread? Same posters, same views has anyone on this forum ever read one of these merry go round threads & ever changed their view.
I’m just gonna cut & paste my 7 yr old posts.....I’d wouldn’t be the only one

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Do we need a repeat of the 2013 thread? Same posters, same views has anyone on this forum ever read one of these merry go round threads & ever changed their view.
I’m just gonna cut & paste my 7 yr old posts.....I’d wouldn’t be the only one

Not all same posters. Maybe just ban those who commented in 2013.

 

[Kellfire]

I absolutely agree Pieman, but I really hope that the suggestion that they killed her themselves is finally proved to be a scandalous lie.

Hindsight wouldn’t make that assumption scandalous.