Longest Club except Putter

[mikejohnchapman]

Hi, can anyone tell me where the rule or definition is about measuring a refief area using the longest club in the bag is excluding a putter?

 

[duncan mackie]

Don't have the new rules here but I suspect it's in the definition of club length which is now defined as the length of the longest club in your bag except your putter.

 

[YandaB]

It is Duncan says, page 137 of the player's edition under the definition of Club-Length.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Kind of under definition of club length - thought there would be something under relief or penalty areas but can't see anything.

 

[jim8flog]

One of the important points, as well, is that is the longest club you have in your bag. You are not allowed to borrow a club to measure with.

 

[backwoodsman]

Have you got the new R&A app?

If so go to "Definitions" and look for "club length" there's quite a detailed explantation there. Especially Interpretations 1 & 2. (Presumably there's something similar in the printed versions?)

 

[rulefan]

Kind of under definition of club length - thought there would be something under relief or penalty areas but can't see anything.

Using the book you will see in the relevant relief rules that club-length is in italics. That indicates the the term is explained in the definitions. The online version has a paler typeface and provides a direct link to the definition.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Using the book you will see in the relevant relief rules that club-length is in italics. That indicates the the term is explained in the definitions. The online version has a paler typeface and provides a direct link to the definition.

OK thanks - I guess the link works but I was under the impression from the presentations etc. it would be specifically spelled out in the rules.

I guess you shouldn't make assumptions

 

[rulefan]

OK thanks - I guess the link works but I was under the impression from the presentations etc. it would be specifically spelled out in the rules.

The book has the definitions at the end. Online there are two separate resources, Rules of Golf and Definitions in addition to Official Definitions, Player's Edition, Committee Procedures and Visual Search.

 

[rulie]

I'm thinking of putting a grip and clubhead on my 15 foot ball retriever so that I can then use it for measuring clublengths. No penalty for carrying a non-conforming club in 2019 and penalty only applies if a stroke is made with it.

 

[rulefan]

Is a non-conforming club a club in the eyes of the rules?

 

[rulie]

Is a non-conforming club a club in the eyes of the rules?

Where does it say it isn't?

 

[rulefan]

I don't know. Which is why I asked

 

[rulie]

I don't know. Which is why I asked

If it doesn't say it isn't, then it is.
Could easily be fixed by modifying the definition of clublength to "The length of the longest conforming club..."

 

[Colin L]

My Code of Conduct will include this clause:

Any player who is being an outrageous chancer may be disqualifed at the discretion of the Committee.

 

[rulefan]

If it doesn't say it isn't, then it is.

That was exactly the reply I was hoping for (and expecting from at least 4 contributors).

 

[mikejohnchapman]

That was exactly the reply I was hoping for (and expecting from at least 4 contributors).

This could become a Monty Python sketch

The longest club, excluding a putter, or a ball retriever. or an apple picker...............

 

[rulefan]

This could become a Monty Python sketch
....

No it couldn't

 

[rulie]

Ok, ball retriever might be a stretch, but if I build and carry a 72 inch driver as one of my 14 clubs and never use it for a stroke?

 

[duncan mackie]

Ok, ball retriever might be a stretch, but if I build and carry a 72 inch driver as one of my 14 clubs and never use it for a stroke?

Last time I looked there was a max length for a drive. ...48" rings a bell, but I may be wrong