"London golf courses could provide homes for 300,000 people, study says"

[Dando]

I noticed this too. If London is 0.65% of the UK's land area but houses 15% of the population, surely the policy should be to reduce density not increase it.

There are a lot of "stats" in this report which are skewed to support the author's argument, e.g. calculating the capacity of a golf course at 72 at any one time, I would expect max capacity of 2x4balls on every hole = 144. Little things like this add up over the whole picture portrayed in the study.

when Lewisham Council were consulting over the closure of Beckenham Park GC they would go down there late afternoons in the winter when the course was empty to back up their claims that the course wasn't used. they had no interest is keeping at as a golf course after they were offered several million by the Lottery fund to turn into a park. they even refused to sell to David Lloyd group

 

[Oddsocks]

As mentioned somewhere else in this thread, with working from home booming and more companies reducing their office space in favour of hot desking, we are going to see more dormant office blocks which have to be prime property conversions.

around Croydon as an example I can think of over 10 building that have been converted into 1 & 2 bed affordable housing on help to buy scheme and so on.

The draw back is I think a lot of new homes will now need a WFH/study in order to become attractive if in city locations.

 

[bobmac]

Work from home =
Less time commuting
Less cars on the road
Less contact with the great unwashed
More productive in the comfort of your own home
Less diversions from the office idiots
More free time to work on your short game.
Win win win

 

[Oddsocks]

Down side,

No separating work life from home life,

More common to start earlier and work later to meet increasing deadlines

Cabin fever!!!!!!!!

 

[sunshine]

Work from home =
Less time commuting
Less cars on the road
Less contact with the great unwashed
More productive in the comfort of your own home
Less diversions from the office idiots
More free time to work on your short game.
Win win win

Less collaboration
Less team spirit
Less random interactions so less information flow across the organisation
Lose lose lose

 

[IanM]

Less collaboration
Less team spirit
Less random interactions so less information flow across the organisation
Lose lose lose

Only if poor leadership in the organisation has created an environment where this is the case............ although I'll give you the 3rd one! (but there are solutions to that too)

 

[IanM]

Down side,

No separating work life from home life,

More common to start earlier and work later to meet increasing deadlines

Cabin fever!!!!!!!!

Only if that is the way you choose to do it! Although if you're in a small flat with 3 kids, the separation is tough to do.


Don't get me wrong, I miss the midweek beers with colleagues, but that's a small price to pay for the commute, sitting in traffic and the costs of ding business.

 

[sunshine]

Only if poor leadership in the organisation has created an environment where this is the case............ although I'll give you the 3rd one! (but there are solutions to that too)

I don't want to side track the debate, but all the substitutes for face to face conversation are inferior to some degree. Some organisations have dealt with this better than others, but you can't always blame leadership, humans are social animals!

 

[bobmac]

Obviously, working from home isn't for everyone.
But it does have it's upside for those who can.

 

[IanM]

I don't want to side track the debate, but all the substitutes for face to face conversation are inferior to some degree. Some organisations have dealt with this better than others, but you can't always blame leadership, humans are social animals!

I don't disagree, although I am sure most opinions offered are a function of personal preference... (But, I have yet to meet a programmer who was a social animal! Although I am sure there must be one somewhere!)

Plenty of empty offices would be converted to social housing.... if the will was there. When organisations get big bills for lease renewals they'll be thinking how well they managed to work remotely during Covid!

 

[HeftyHacker]

I don't disagree, although I am sure most opinions offered are a function of personal preference... (But, I have yet to meet and programmer who was a social animal! Although I am sure there must be one somewhere!)

Plenty of empty offices would be converted to social housing.... if the will was there. When organisations get big bills for lease renewals they'll be thinking how well they managed to work remotely during Covid!

We've been working from home since the pandemic began and its bloody hard work to get through the (third party) Safety team and get into the office should we so desire. So we're currently paying upwards of £300k per annum for office space that we aren't even allowed to use.

If our company had any sense they'd sell off a load of land (our site is an old airfield) and turn the current office buildings into multiprogram offices on a hot desking or rota policy... instead we're about to break ground on a £12m office building to accompany the currently empty office buildings next door.

 

[spongebob59]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1431341828641542152

 

[Oddsocks]

We've been working from home since the pandemic began and its bloody hard work to get through the (third party) Safety team and get into the office should we so desire. So we're currently paying upwards of £300k per annum for office space that we aren't even allowed to use.

If our company had any sense they'd sell off a load of land (our site is an old airfield) and turn the current office buildings into multiprogram offices on a hot desking or rota policy... instead we're about to break ground on a £12m office building to accompany the currently empty office buildings next door.

hot desk offices will be the future

 

[sunshine]

hot desk offices will be the future

Feel like I’ve just stepped in to a time warp. Hot desking has been the present for many years.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Feel like I’ve just stepped in to a time warp. Hot desking has been the present for many years.

The difference being that people hot desking or working for home were generally mocked, looked down upon etc as skiving in the past. Now people see it as a genuine alternative.

 

[slowhand]

But, I have yet to meet a programmer who was a social animal! Although I am sure there must be one somewhere!

Hi. Pleased to meet you

 

[MarkT]

Wimbledon have just purchased Wimbledon Park GC to turn into practice courts and parking!

I was a member there for 20+ years, everyone said to keep the membership going. Left in 2005 when my dad died as couldn't face it, members now getting an £86,000 pay-out

 

[jim8flog]

Obviously, working from home isn't for everyone.
But it does have it's upside for those who can.

I loved working from home it gave me all the time I wanted to play golf.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I was a member there for 20+ years, everyone said to keep the membership going. Left in 2005 when my dad died as couldn't face it, members now getting an £86,000 pay-out

Missing a payout like that sounds painful but no one would surely expect to keep paying fees for 16 years at a course, I presume, you had no interest in playing at again. Had you left in more recent times it could bring sleepless nights but I'm hoping 16 years is a big enough gap to avoid cold sweats about this.

 

[sunshine]

Missing a payout like that sounds painful but no one would surely expect to keep paying fees for 16 years at a course, I presume, you had no interest in playing at again. Had you left in more recent times it could bring sleepless nights but I'm hoping 16 years is a big enough gap to avoid cold sweats about this.

This was voted on several years ago, and I am sure there were a few years of rumour and debate before the club finally accepted the offer. I believe this was not the first offer the All England Tennis club had made, club had turned down previous offers. Your point is absolutely correct, but the timescales are a lot closer.