London Bridge incident

[Old Skier]

I understand and agree we can't stand still, I also don't think we need armed police on every corner, but these escalations have happened on their watch, the cutbacks have taken a toll and the only party that won't committ to more coppers or to stop the cuts is the tories, they seem to want to criticise everyone else rather than explain their actions.

If you go back to the last budget there was a provision to recruit police to the pre 2014 levels, you may also wish to forget that Yvette Cooper when she was Shadow Home Secretary agreed with cuts to our police forces.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I understand and agree we can't stand still, I also don't think we need armed police on every corner, but these escalations have happened on their watch, the cutbacks have taken a toll and the only party that won't committ to more coppers or to stop the cuts is the tories, they seem to want to criticise everyone else rather than explain their actions.

If you go back to the last budget there was a provision to recruit police to the pre 2014 levels, you may also wish to forget that Yvette Cooper when she was Shadow Home Secretary agreed with cuts to our police forces.

And the reduction started with the introduction of "Blunkett's Bobbies", replacing warranted officers with PCSO's. Remind me which party he was with?

Still, Corbyn can afford to promise to raise the numbers with dolally Diane getting them at 30p per annum.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

And the reduction started with the introduction of "Blunkett's Bobbies", replacing warranted officers with PCSO's. Remind me which party he was with?

Still, Corbyn can afford to promise to raise the numbers with dolally Diane getting them at 30p per annum.

Genuine q, do you think that no conservative MPs have made mistakes with their numbers in the build up to this election? (ignoring the fact they have refused to cost anything).

 

[Blue in Munich]

Genuine q, do you think that no conservative MPs have made mistakes with their numbers in the build up to this election? (ignoring the fact they have refused to cost anything).

I'm not sure how Conservative MP's can make mistakes with their figures if they have refused to cost anything; sounds like a strong & stable policy to me!

Genuine answer, I'm sure that in their indecent haste to score points over each other with scant regard to actually providing the electorate with facts, politicians from all parties have made mistakes with their figures but Ms. Abbott seems to have made more than most and higher profile ones.

She is, incidentally, no longer shadow Home Secretary, I wonder why that happened?

 

[Smiffy]

Increasing the budget , the resources , intelligence and the footfall on all our security forces is a better answer than anything else offered up on here -

For £40k a year I'll gladly study CCTV footage and bubble them.
I bet all those nutjobs I've seen on TV screaming "death to the police, soldiers" etc. etc. are still walking around scot free and un-challenged.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

And the reduction started with the introduction of "Blunkett's Bobbies", replacing warranted officers with PCSO's. Remind me which party he was with?

Still, Corbyn can afford to promise to raise the numbers with dolally Diane getting them at 30p per annum.

I get all that, but the tories still could of reversed the damage labour did prior to 2010.

That's why they both annoy me, they blame each other rather than taking responsibility.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I get all that, but the tories still could of reversed the damage labour did prior to 2010.

That's why they both annoy me, they blame each other rather than taking responsibility.

I'm not sure they could in terms of returning everyone to warranted officer status mate, but in terms of absolute numbers they could probably done something; whether or not that would go as far as fully reversing it I'm not sure.

No argument at all with your second point.

 

[SocketRocket]

Yes it is, I'll play the game with you, the Police and local communities have stated one of the best deterrents and sources of information was policeing in the community and a valuable resource has been lost.

Also did not state more Police in cars did I?

We need more Police so they can cover all aspects of Policeing, not just the areas that suit your agenda.

We wouldn't need Troops on the streets if we had enough Police would we?

Did more Police on the streets prevent terror attacks in the past! Of course not, it's just not that simple.

Returning to a previous thread on police. If those police attacked in the London Bridge incident had been armed then the terrorists may well have been stopped earlier and many deaths and injury prevented. That Policeman had only his baton to attack them with.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Did more Police on the streets prevent terror attacks in the past! Of course not, it's just not that simple.

Returning to a previous thread on police. If those police attacked in the London Bridge incident had been armed then the terrorists may well have been stopped earlier and many deaths and injury prevented. That Policeman had only his baton to attack them with.

If my Auntie had a penis she'd be my uncle.

 

[SocketRocket]

If my Auntie had a penis she'd be my uncle.

If she had a penis She would probably be both

 

[Khamelion]

There's a video on You Tube showing the three terrorists stabbing a member of the public and the Police arriving and then shooting them, not going to post up the video as some may find it disturbing, but if you do want to view it, this is the link https://youtu.be/BvvzDY9j7Cc