London Bridge incident

[Tashyboy]

News just breaking re an incident on London Bridge re another vehicle and pedestrians. Early days but don't sound good at all.

mods can you stick this in oob please

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Doesn't sound good this.

 

[SocketRocket]

They are attacking people in other places now.

 

[huds1475]

Think they'll not be active for long once the SAS hit the ground.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

Not sure how you will ever stop these type of incidents but the people behind them need to be eliminated asap

 

[Fish]

Not sure how you will ever stop these type of incidents but the people behind them need to be eliminated asap

Although there was multiple stabbings in Borough Market after a van drove into people on London bridge, the 3 terrorists/murderers were quickly shot and taken out!

They were wearing hoax suicide vest also!

These kind of attacks are unstoppable but with armed transport police, armed police coasting around the capital along with other cities, the reaction to this attack was swift and effective.

Watching some of the footage the police are well drilled now in getting everyone to 'get down' to the ground and containing some areas and suppressing a certain amount of panic and running, this helps massively to contain certain areas and then have those people leave in a more controlled manner with their hands in the air.

These kind of individuals are almost kamikaze style terrorists as they will know that in these kind of raw attacks, which are slightly different to a well planned suicide bomber, as these murderers will be shot and killed but it's a case of how many they can kill before being killed themselves!

 

[richy]

Although there was multiple stabbings in Borough Market after a van drove into people on London bridge, the 3 terrorists/murderers were quickly shot and taken out!

They were wearing hoax suicide vest also!

These kind of attacks are unstoppable but with armed transport police, armed police coasting around the capital along with other cities, the reaction to this attack was swift and effective.

Watching some of the footage the police are well drilled now in getting everyone to 'get down' to the ground and containing some areas and suppressing a certain amount of panic and running, this helps massively to contain certain areas and then have those people leave in a more controlled manner with their hands in the air.

These kind of individuals are almost kamikaze style terrorists as they will know that in these kind of raw attacks, which are slightly different to a well planned suicide bomber, as these murderers will be shot and killed but it's a case of how many they can kill before being killed themselves!

8 minutes from the first 999 call was the response time which is really good.

As more stories come out it gets more and more shocking.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Just awful, worrying it was 3 working together!

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The problem is how do you stop this type of attack from happening,

Bridges seem to have become a focal point, so can they put concrete/metal bollards all the way down to separate the road and pavement, so they cant drive on the pavement?

Realise that this will just move the problem along , so they will find another weak point, but its a relatively simple measure that will save lives.

Thoughts with those affected

 

[sawtooth]

The problem is how do you stop this type of attack from happening,

Bridges seem to have become a focal point, so can they put concrete/metal bollards all the way down to separate the road and pavement, so they cant drive on the pavement?

Realise that this will just move the problem along , so they will find another weak point, but its a relatively simple measure that will save lives.

Thoughts with those affected

You can't really mate.

Maybe in years to come technology will provide a solution. In a world of self driving vehicles where safe pedestrianised areas are geofenced to prevent vehicular access?

Better still impregnate newborn babies with a GPS device that will self destruct when behind the wheel of a vehicle travelling where it shouldn't be! 😀👍

 

[User62651]

When the enemy comes from within (unconfirmed), really very little that can be done to prevent.
Usual noises this morning from police about Cobra meetings, quick armed police response times and public heroes and with a visible police presence/closed off areas which are all designed to try and give public reassurance but doesn't help those affected by the horror or stop it happening again when it's carried out with just cars and knives. Not reassuring at all really.
Really grim and thoughts with those affected.

PM announcement shortly.

 

[Fish]

The problem is how do you stop this type of attack from happening,

Bridges seem to have become a focal point, so can they put concrete/metal bollards all the way down to separate the road and pavement, so they cant drive on the pavement?

Realise that this will just move the problem along , so they will find another weak point, but its a relatively simple measure that will save lives.

Thoughts with those affected

You can't prevent acts like this unless people close to them become aware of their potential acts of terror and report it.

unfortunately becoming known to have reported someone from within their community could be dangerous for them also, so it would be pretty rare to see this happen.

We can make it as difficult as possible to deter these kind of attacks where the use of vehicles is becoming a weapon, you do see quite a few bollards along some walkways in London and the kerbs are also very high in parts.

I'd like to see more of the high concaved kerbs where it's impossible to mount a vehicle, but as has been said, the attacks would simply move to a more softer target.

If all these 3 terrorists once known end up again being British born, then its more substance and evidence for me to radicalise our laws.

In that, had they been on a temporary passport because their parents had moved here from the Middle East, who'd also be on temp passports, then all family members associated to them are deported out to where they (the parents) originally came from as it's obvious they can't and don't accept our way of western life and laws so they fully forfeit the right stay here.

 

[Hacker Khan]

You can't prevent acts like this unless people close to them become aware of their potential acts of terror and report it.

unfortunately becoming known to have reported someone from within their community could be dangerous for them also, so it would be pretty rare to see this happen.

We can make it as difficult as possible to deter these kind of attacks where the use of vehicles is becoming a weapon, you do see quite a few bollards along some walkways in London and the kerbs are also very high in parts.

I'd like to see more of the high concaved kerbs where it's impossible to mount a vehicle, but as has been said, the attacks would simply move to a more softer target.

If all these 3 terrorists once known end up again being British born, then its more substance and evidence for me to radicalise our laws.

In that, had they been on a temporary passport because their parents had moved here from the Middle East, who'd also be on temp passports, then all family members associated to them are deported out to where they (the parents) originally came from as it's obvious they can't and don't accept our way of western life and laws so they fully forfeit the right stay here.

Perhaps we can wait to copy/paste the posts from the Manchester thread until we know the facts?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Thoughts are with the Victims and their families today. So so sad.

 

[SocketRocket]

Perhaps we can wait to copy/paste the posts from the Manchester thread until we know the facts?

I think we know the facts. people are dead and injured by terrorists.

 

[guest100718]

You can't prevent acts like this unless people close to them become aware of their potential acts of terror and report it.

unfortunately becoming known to have reported someone from within their community could be dangerous for them also, so it would be pretty rare to see this happen.

We can make it as difficult as possible to deter these kind of attacks where the use of vehicles is becoming a weapon, you do see quite a few bollards along some walkways in London and the kerbs are also very high in parts.

I'd like to see more of the high concaved kerbs where it's impossible to mount a vehicle, but as has been said, the attacks would simply move to a more softer target.

If all these 3 terrorists once known end up again being British born, then its more substance and evidence for me to radicalise our laws.

In that, had they been on a temporary passport because their parents had moved here from the Middle East, who'd also be on temp passports, then all family members associated to them are deported out to where they (the parents) originally came from as it's obvious they can't and don't accept our way of western life and laws so they fully forfeit the right stay here.

Longer detainment without charge, more house arrests, curfews, tagging etc i'll agree with, but this temporary passport guff is just stupid.

 

[Fish]

Longer detainment without charge, more house arrests, curfews, tagging etc i'll agree with, but this temporary passport guff is just stupid.

I don't think it's stupid, instead of making people who come here from other countries British Citizens they have a permanent Visa, there is already what's called a settlement order, this just becomes permanent as long as those individuals never commit a heinous crime. If they indeed commit a crime of such magnitude then that Visa/Settlement order style passport is removed and they are deported to the county they came from as they have become undesirables.

I also don't get people who have dual citizenship, for me your one or the other.

 

[guest100718]

I don't think it's stupid, instead of making people who come here from other countries British Citizens they have a permanent Visa, there is already what's called a settlement order, this just becomes permanent as long as those individuals never commit a heinous crime. If they indeed commit a crime of such magnitude then that Visa/Settlement order style passport is removed and they are deported to the county they came from as they have become undesirables.

I also don't get people who have dual citizenship, for me your one or the other.

Buts whats the point? The perpetrators will proably be british born and bred.

I'll probably take up dual nationality for reasons of convinience, I dont see it as an issue.

 

[rudebhoy]

The prime minister has said "it is time to say enough is enough" as she condemned a terror attack on "innocent and unarmed civilians" which left seven people dead and 48 injured in London.

A white van hit pedestrians on London Bridge at about 22:00 BST on Saturday, then three men got out and stabbed people in nearby Borough Market.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40148737


Is that it? "Enough is enough"? No mention of what you are going to do, or is it you just haven't got a clue?

Meaningless soundbite from a cretin of a PM.

 

[ColchesterFC]

What would you have liked to hear her say?