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Paul77

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My swing was a result of watching too many videos online. It was also something that I adjusted over the last few months, to stop a low fade with the driver and a high slice with the irons. I had one lesson last month and the guy gave me a few bits of advice. Stand further away from the ball and get my weight distribution right at address. In conjunction with that I was trying to learn how to Draw the ball and I had some great success with it, although, sometimes that dreaded shank or slice came back and I was only saved with a pitch or chip back onto the green.

My second lesson I asked if I could work on AoA with my irons as I was taking huge divots (me thinking this was my problem), and sometimes chunking into the turf on uphill lies.

He takes me onto the mat with Trackman on. I hit a few balls in my normal address position and I hit about 10 balls. We check trackman and my AoA was -1.5 with a 7 iron on average. He says this was fine but lets work on something else.

Long story short. I was aligining up all wrong and taking the club away too shallow on the backswing and slightly coming over the top on the down. A few wee drills later during the lesson and three pointers to keep in mind to focus on when I address the ball and I'm not only hitting the ball with a better strike, lower launch angle and went from 149y with a 7iron to 173y max.

A few days rest and I went to the range last night hoping to keep to the advice given, and I must say it's night and day. Only problem is that I'm now hooked.

Thanks to everyone who advised to get lessons, it's been the best £70 I've spend so far, and I encourage anyone who is feeling there's something not quite right to go speak to someone about it. I've gone from being a "Hit and Hope" to actually hitting the ball consistently down a line with a 10 yard dispersion with my irons. I tried the same principle with the driver last night and crikey it's mental. Not any longer, but more a feeling of being able to strike it better and down a tighter line.

Now all I need is for the rain to pass :)

Paul
 
173 with a 7 iron is seriously long. Hope you continue to strike it well- just pay good attention to your average distances (I think there's a device that could help you with tracking that ;)). Keep it on the fairway now and you'll soon be on the tour.
 
The lesson I had a at the beginning of last week was perfect. Helped me out a lot and enabled me to score 33 points on Sunningdales New course, the best I've played around there by miles. I am also playing a lot better at home too, well worth the investment.
 
My swing was a result of watching too many videos online. It was also something that I adjusted over the last few months, to stop a low fade with the driver and a high slice with the irons. I had one lesson last month and the guy gave me a few bits of advice. Stand further away from the ball and get my weight distribution right at address. In conjunction with that I was trying to learn how to Draw the ball and I had some great success with it, although, sometimes that dreaded shank or slice came back and I was only saved with a pitch or chip back onto the green.

My second lesson I asked if I could work on AoA with my irons as I was taking huge divots (me thinking this was my problem), and sometimes chunking into the turf on uphill lies.

He takes me onto the mat with Trackman on. I hit a few balls in my normal address position and I hit about 10 balls. We check trackman and my AoA was -1.5 with a 7 iron on average. He says this was fine but lets work on something else.

Long story short. I was aligining up all wrong and taking the club away too shallow on the backswing and slightly coming over the top on the down. A few wee drills later during the lesson and three pointers to keep in mind to focus on when I address the ball and I'm not only hitting the ball with a better strike, lower launch angle and went from 149y with a 7iron to 173y max.

A few days rest and I went to the range last night hoping to keep to the advice given, and I must say it's night and day. Only problem is that I'm now hooked.

Thanks to everyone who advised to get lessons, it's been the best £70 I've spend so far, and I encourage anyone who is feeling there's something not quite right to go speak to someone about it. I've gone from being a "Hit and Hope" to actually hitting the ball consistently down a line with a 10 yard dispersion with my irons. I tried the same principle with the driver last night and crikey it's mental. Not any longer, but more a feeling of being able to strike it better and down a tighter line.

Now all I need is for the rain to pass :)

Paul

Nice to hear Paul.

Could I ask what the drills are or would you require half of your £70 for such tips?
 
Nice to hear Paul.

Could I ask what the drills are or would you require half of your £70 for such tips?

I don't mind sharing. Got enough info from here.

He placed a ball a clubhead length towards me then 8 inches back in my stance. He said that if I hit the leading ball on the backswing I'll come over the top on the downswing. If I came away steeper, clearing the ball, then I'd hit it straight or draw it. After several shots trying not to come around that leading ball, I was hitting a 10 yard draw. Some shots with a slight opening of the clubface by about 1.3 degrees, but to be honest, if I hit that all day long I'd be happy.

Also using alignment sticks he identified that I was aiming more left with my shoulders than I was with my feet, so a wee drill was to make sure I tuck my left shoulder in towards the ball, squaring it up. I've to do that on every shot until it becomes natural for me. Also I've to stop leaning too much on my left side. Balance it out more. That was it really.

The one crucial thing for me was how far I am away from the ball now, with my hands forward of the ball. It feels like I'm really delofting the club but now that I'm used to it, it feels alright. The 173 yard shot was a peach of a hit to be honest, but my average was 164 yards.

According to Trackman and after hitting 150 balls on the lesson, I have a swing speed average of 83.5mph. There was a pattern to the slightly open clubface shots. I was swinging up t about 86mph, so I was obviously leaving my hands behind ever so slightly. It's really good to see the data coupled with how the shot went. Even funnier that I went in with what I thought was an AoA problem, and it was nothing to do with that.
 
I don't mind sharing. Got enough info from here.

He placed a ball a clubhead length towards me then 8 inches back in my stance. He said that if I hit the leading ball on the backswing I'll come over the top on the downswing. If I came away steeper, clearing the ball, then I'd hit it straight or draw it. After several shots trying not to come around that leading ball, I was hitting a 10 yard draw. Some shots with a slight opening of the clubface by about 1.3 degrees, but to be honest, if I hit that all day long I'd be happy.

Also using alignment sticks he identified that I was aiming more left with my shoulders than I was with my feet, so a wee drill was to make sure I tuck my left shoulder in towards the ball, squaring it up. I've to do that on every shot until it becomes natural for me. Also I've to stop leaning too much on my left side. Balance it out more. That was it really.

The one crucial thing for me was how far I am away from the ball now, with my hands forward of the ball. It feels like I'm really delofting the club but now that I'm used to it, it feels alright. The 173 yard shot was a peach of a hit to be honest, but my average was 164 yards.

According to Trackman and after hitting 150 balls on the lesson, I have a swing speed average of 83.5mph. There was a pattern to the slightly open clubface shots. I was swinging up t about 86mph, so I was obviously leaving my hands behind ever so slightly. It's really good to see the data coupled with how the shot went. Even funnier that I went in with what I thought was an AoA problem, and it was nothing to do with that.

Very interesting. Thakns for that Paul. I think I am at the stage you were before this lesson.

Could you just describe the but about clubhead length towards you and 8" back please? I can't picture it?
 
Very interesting. Thakns for that Paul. I think I am at the stage you were before this lesson.

Could you just describe the but about clubhead length towards you and 8" back please? I can't picture it?

Yeah no problem.

So place the clubhead (7 iron) behind the ball you are hitting, then put another ball behind the clubhead. Move that ball 8 inches towards your right foot. Looking over the set up you should have your ball your hitting, then one just inside it but towards your right foot, giving you clearance for the club to swing back.
 
Yeah no problem.

So place the clubhead (7 iron) behind the ball you are hitting, then put another ball behind the clubhead. Move that ball 8 inches towards your right foot. Looking over the set up you should have your ball your hitting, then one just inside it but towards your right foot, giving you clearance for the club to swing back.

I'm with you now! Am I right in thinking if you were to hit the other ball it would be an extremely shallow swing, and one that wraps around your back?
 
I'm with you now! Am I right in thinking if you were to hit the other ball it would be an extremely shallow swing, and one that wraps around your back?

To a certain extend I guess so. I just don't ever feel that I did that. Maybe the pro did hence the reason he put it there. I went with the whole getting the shaft parallel to the ground on takeaway but when I did that, I moved the ball. Doing it the pro's way, when I take the club away the shaft is parallel to the floor but rather than pointing at 3 oclock it's more in between 1 and 2 oclock.
 
I would also advise not to play golf in the two day recovery period of going to the gym. My shoulders oh my shoulders. I can now thin bullet a pitching wedge 125 yards. Get in.
 
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