Launch Monitor

MendieGK said:
Dont get me wrong i'd love a GC2, but spending £6k on one (at least) as a consumer is madness. you dont get 3x the quality than the skytrak
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For sure its really hard to pull the trigger and I have looked at every way not to but its - Get something that works or don't get anything at all.

I have another new toy at the mo so its don't do anything at all for a bit. Nothing on a budget is good enough at this moment. ES16 Tour is the best possibility but the sales guy did not impress me and the time is not right.
 
Alex1975 said:
You cannot compare ES14 and GC2.

I am fighting with Foresight at the moment about price and software and so on. Currently about £6.5k for the unit but the salesman tells me the prices will go up after xmas cos of the weak pound. ( I took that as a sales trick but might be true)
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It's not a question of is it comparable to a GC2 think it has to be run along side to gain some kind of judgement on the 14's accuracy. For under £400 it doesn't do too bad compared to something thats beyond Mere mortals wage.
 
3565 said:
It's not a question of is it comparable to a GC2 think it has to be run along side to gain some kind of judgement on the 14's accuracy. For under £400 it doesn't do too bad compared to something thats beyond Mere mortals wage.
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Agree with this. If the 14 was not accurate at all, then there is absolutely no point in buying it. Even at £400. Obviously they will not be like for like or the same quality.
 
3565 said:
It's not a question of is it comparable to a GC2 think it has to be run along side to gain some kind of judgement on the 14's accuracy. For under £400 it doesn't do too bad compared to something thats beyond Mere mortals wage.
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No launch direction, no shot shape... Every shot spears to go straight?!


Anyhow I do get what your saying but when someone starts a post about GC2, bringing up ES14 does kinda ask you to be comparing them
 
Alex1975 said:
You cannot compare ES14 and GC2.

I am fighting with Foresight at the moment about price and software and so on. Currently about £6.5k for the unit but the salesman tells me the prices will go up after xmas cos of the weak pound. ( I took that as a sales trick but might be true)
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When a currency drops 15% of it's value that is definitely not a sale trick haha.
 
I looked into this from every angle (the latest ES was not on the cards then) Skytrak was the no brainier option. Its been great.
 
I toyed with the idea of an ES 14 but not convinced about the accuracy and depth of the information. I also fear that it's paralysis by analysis and I'm trying to simplify my practice and looking more at ball flight and strike. I do still use a GC2 with my pro when I have a lesson every now and then. If I was going for one, it'll be an E16 but too big and expensive for my everyday needs so I'll pass. I may look at Skytrac if/when the price starts to come down or there is more competition at that level
 
I hire the GC2 room for 10 quid an hour.

Really wish it had HM2, my pro didn't think it was worth the extra £6k. You get no club head data so can't see path, face angle, impact spot etc
 
Dasit said:
I hire the GC2 room for 10 quid an hour.

Really wish it had HM2, my pro didn't think it was worth the extra £6k. You get no club head data so can't see path, face angle, impact spot etc
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We can do that at a local range although I think our rates are higher but we do have the HM2 option. It seems very popular, especially at this time of year
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Do you know I don't know as I haven't used it. I'll make enquiries tomorrow as I'm not sure if they'd include it in the price as it's £10 for 30 minutes according the website.
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Do you have to pay for balls on top?

£10 for 100 balls at ranges around me, so more than worth it as I can easily hit several hundred balls in an hour of GC2 work indoors.
 
Ive had an Es14 since they were launched.

Good points..... its easy to set up, the app (I use android) is clean and simple, you can email yourself a CSV file of your session... seems to give good consistent results for swingspeed and ball speed and the carry yardages which are calculated seem reasonable.

Average points... spin is calculated (you can tell this because of how often the same numbers repeat themselves for given club bad ball speeds)...I wouldn't trust the numbers if I wanted to use the ES14 as a means of comparing different shafts spin/launch characteristics. I believe that launch is also calculated.

Negatives... sometimes struggles to deliver readings on high lofted clubs like 9 iron and above.... no good if you want to use it to look at wedge gaps. Battery life seems low and low batteries do seem to make it harder for the device to capture shots. No ability to update the device..e.g. with new software that could provide better calculation algorithms.

Good device as long as you understand its limitations.... but probably over priced at £400....I'd certainly scour eBay to see if any are going for sub £200....but I wouldn't pay full whack for one given that its a relatively old model and the rate of progress in the development of such devices will soon leave it trailing well behind.
 
Dasit said:
I hire the GC2 room for 10 quid an hour.

Really wish it had HM2, my pro didn't think it was worth the extra £6k. You get no club head data so can't see path, face angle, impact spot etc
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Probably the best option, you can become obsessed with numbers on any device, see my profile pic.. ahahha...

The end of the day hitting on any sim is artificial and getting good at making the sim read the numbers you like is not golf

Using it to measure progress fine, spending every session on it (As happens when you own the systems) not fine
 
351DRIVER said:
Probably the best option, you can become obsessed with numbers on any device, see my profile pic.. ahahha...

The end of the day hitting on any sim is artificial and getting good at making the sim read the numbers you like is not golf

Using it to measure progress fine, spending every session on it (As happens when you own the systems) not fine
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Hmmm I think you make a good point.
 
351DRIVER said:
Probably the best option, you can become obsessed with numbers on any device, see my profile pic.. ahahha...

The end of the day hitting on any sim is artificial and getting good at making the sim read the numbers you like is not golf

Using it to measure progress fine, spending every session on it (As happens when you own the systems) not fine
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I totally agree which is why I'm reluctant to pursue an ES14 or similar at this time. Simple is best and as long as ball flight and direction are reasonable and fairly consistent then at my level that's probably good enough
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I totally agree which is why I'm reluctant to pursue an ES14 or similar at this time. Simple is best and as long as ball flight and direction are reasonable and fairly consistent then at my level that's probably good enough
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Homer what was your initial thinking for a LM? I've looked into a few of these and the main reason I wanted one was to dial in wedge distances and found the best (budget) one for this was voice caddie sc200 as you can change loft.... the gapping full clubs too. Anything else really no use to me.
 
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