CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
To be fair to chellie, I was told to get 3 cards, then submit them all together. But I simply gave in the first 3 I could get! I agree that all the cards should be put in to get an accurate handicap!
Last night I got my handicap......
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To be fair to chellie, I was told to get 3 cards, then submit them all together. But I simply gave in the first 3 I could get! I agree that all the cards should be put in to get an accurate handicap!
chellie
Tour Winner
To the OP and CH, well done on your handicaps and sorry for hijacking your thread.
I did my first card the other week and the lady who marked it told me it had to be dropped in the box before I left the club so I did that. However, hubby who had his first card marked nearly three weeks ago has been told by all who have taken him out to mark his cards that he has to hand three cards in at the same time. Very confusing but if need be he'll just have to start again.
Can see what you're saying but if its a "fluke" surely you don't want to penalise yourself.
BTW I'm not suggesting that he be a bandit.
I did my first card the other week and the lady who marked it told me it had to be dropped in the box before I left the club so I did that. However, hubby who had his first card marked nearly three weeks ago has been told by all who have taken him out to mark his cards that he has to hand three cards in at the same time. Very confusing but if need be he'll just have to start again.
Can see what you're saying but if its a "fluke" surely you don't want to penalise yourself.
BTW I'm not suggesting that he be a bandit.woody69
Journeyman Pro
I feel your pain, I really do. I'm off 21 and my best score at my new track after 9 rounds is also a gross of 24 over, which just so happens to be the same card that was adjusted down to 21 as I had a hole with a 9 and a 7. The point is though the hole I shot a 9, I have actually par'd it in one of my previous rounds, and the hole I got a 7 I have even birdied that one! As you're a high handicapper the potential is there that you can score a great round and those odd holes may or may not happen. Try not to get too hung up on that number. Just play your game and before you know it another cut will come.
I like you are aiming to be on 18 by the end of the year - me too!
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woody69
Journeyman Pro
Can see what you're saying but if its a "fluke" surely you don't want to penalise yourself.
Love this. If you're deliberately not submitting a card that shows your true potential to what you can score in order to gain an advantage over the rest of the field in a comp, if you're not a "bandit" then what are you?
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
I feel your pain, I really do. I'm off 21 and my best score at my new track after 9 rounds is also a gross of 24 over, which just so happens to be the same card that was adjusted down to 21 as I had a hole with a 9 and a 7. The point is though the hole I shot a 9, I have actually par'd it in one of my previous rounds, and the hole I got a 7 I have even birdied that one! As you're a high handicapper the potential is there that you can score a great round and those odd holes may or may not happen. Try not to get too hung up on that number. Just play your game and before you know it another cut will come.
I like you are aiming to be on 18 by the end of the year
Cheers for that! Oh and the 18 is purely because I may have joked about it to my friend for our annual golf trip, and he has now challenged me that I'm either down to 18 by then, or I play off it anyway! I thought the best way was to actually get down to it!
I definitely know what you mean about the "potential" to score well on the holes. I just wish I could choose which holes my extra 2 shots are used on! S.I 1 and 2 aren't normally that bad for me! I need it on other holes normally!
woody69
Journeyman Pro
I'm also planning on getting to 18 by the end of this year. I just re-read my sentence on that and it came across that I liked that you were aiming for 18, when in fact I was trying to say "I, like you, is aiming for 18 as well!"
I also know what you mean about the SI 1 & 2. Played with my mate this weekend and he hit only his 2nd birdie of his life (he's off an unofficial 28) on our "hardest hole"
chellie
Tour Winner
Love this. If you're deliberately not submitting a card that shows your true potential to what you can score in order to gain an advantage over the rest of the field in a comp, if you're not a "bandit" then what are you?
Sorry, I thought a bandit was someone who can usually play to a low score but will "throw a round" not someone who has a one off low round.
mykweb
Assistant Pro
Christ my cards I submitted were at a time when I was playing... well bloody awful
My first card was a 99, second was a 92 and wait for it Third card was a 111. On my third card I managed to loose 4 balls on the first 2 holes.
But I still submitted it.
Mike
My first card was a 99, second was a 92 and wait for it Third card was a 111. On my third card I managed to loose 4 balls on the first 2 holes.
But I still submitted it.Mike
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
A bandit is someone who intentionally maintains a handicap that is higher than it should be, to improve their chances of winning.
Just put in the 3 best cards you have, get a handicap, and worry about the rest later. There is far too much over thinking going into the simple act of putting 3 cards in to get a handicap. Just get it over and done with. All this angst over when to start submitting cards, which ones to submit etc etc. it must take months. Get on with it, get a handicap and start playing competitions.
Simple.
I remember what it was like btw, I got my first handicap last winter and stressed about it too, in the end I just got my 3 cards completed and submitted as quick as I could, got allocated a handicap in line with the best of those 3 and got on with it.
jp5
Q-School Graduate
Can see what you're saying but if its a "fluke" surely you don't want to penalise yourself.
It's just not possible to fluke a low score over 18 holes. That low score shows what your husband is capable of. If he matches it, he'll do well in a comp. Beat that low score and he'll stand a good chance of winning!
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
Everyone has different views on a 'bandit' but someone keeping there handicap protected is always going to run the risk of pointing fingers...
Ian_S
Challenge Tour Pro
Obvious thing is to ask why that is happening then? How come you are so susceptible to blowing a hole up, when you clearly have the ability to make at least bogey on every hole at you course?
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Because for some reason, I can't tee off consistently. Go down the range, and it's lovely. Take a lesson with the pro, and it's lovely. Step on the course, and it's very mixed.
I don't use a driver, as I definitely can't hit them, so I use my 3w. When that stops working, I use my hybrid off the tee. Whichever club I use, for some reason a couple of holes during the round, my head just goes, and I will duff it 30 yards into the rough. From that point, it's 2 shots to get near the green normally, chip on, and 2 putt at the very best! More often than not the next few shots will be nearly as bad (I know that I need to seperate the shots in my head, and I'm slowly getting better, but it still happens!)
Last night was a perfect example. 15 points thru 7 holes, then a duffed drive on 8 meant a blob. On 9 I was 10 yards from the green after my drive, and due to my head not switching off from the last hole, played a bit of ping pong around the green, and blobbed it.
I don't use a driver, as I definitely can't hit them, so I use my 3w. When that stops working, I use my hybrid off the tee. Whichever club I use, for some reason a couple of holes during the round, my head just goes, and I will duff it 30 yards into the rough. From that point, it's 2 shots to get near the green normally, chip on, and 2 putt at the very best! More often than not the next few shots will be nearly as bad (I know that I need to seperate the shots in my head, and I'm slowly getting better, but it still happens!)
Last night was a perfect example. 15 points thru 7 holes, then a duffed drive on 8 meant a blob. On 9 I was 10 yards from the green after my drive, and due to my head not switching off from the last hole, played a bit of ping pong around the green, and blobbed it.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Just had a quick thought re: this "potential" thing. (Not arguing with anyone, I just find it interesting). At what point should using the potential ability stop? I've parred every hole on my golf course, normally a couple of times. If we go by the potential ability, then that makes me a scratch golfer....
Ian_S
Challenge Tour Pro
I'm not an expert (you've got a lower h/c than me) but this part intrigued me. I'm quite into my stats (maths, in this case, rather than GIR) and I'm always wary of basing decisions on a small sample. One bad shot doesn't mean you can't hit your 3 wood anymore. Sports people, as a group, confuse random variation for 'momentum' all the time, hence why instead of thinking your duffed 3 wood was just something that happens 5/10% of the time with your current game, you read it as a sign that you cannot hit it for the rest of the day.
You know you can hit your 3 wood, so next time you duff one, just think 'oh well, I'll get it back next time' instead of defeating yourself. We make this game so much harder than it needs to be by over thinking.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
thats the hardest part of the game controling the 6 inches between yours ears! get that under control and the rest will follow...
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
the problem you have here is that handicapping is not 'a potential thing' at all - that's just a way that some people seem to try and rationalise the system (to either themselves or others).
look at it this way; from the time you are allocated a handicap the system will never reduce your handicap below the best score you have actually achieved in a Q event; clearly not a system that is dealing with potential.
I have some sympathy for those that have played a fair bit of golf and then get their first handicap allocated on the basis of net double bogey adjusted scores; there is an inherent assumption that any new handicap allocation is likely to improve their really bad scores pretty quickly as they become more experienced - if you have come to handicaps late in your career this may be a false assumption! It works well for the majority of cases, and no formulae can work perfectly for all situations.
It's also true to state that medal play puts cat 4 players (generally) at a disadvantage - the corollary is not true though.
zlinuk
Club Champion
You seem to have forgotten to mention that you also created an excellent impression with the club captain when you hit him in the chops with the chunk of turf that you fetched up with one of your warm up swings on the first tee.
Oh how we laughed. :clap:
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
good man - 18's a great handicap because you don't have to even consider stroke index when playing stableford
18 for a first cap isn't to shabby, as Duncan said si's don't come into it... One stroke a hole and crack on.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
You seem to have forgotten to mention that you also created an excellent impression with the club captain when you hit him in the chops with the chunk of turf that you fetched up with one of your warm up swings on the first tee.
Oh how we laughed. :clap:
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