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[Deleted member 18645]

She wasn't meeting with the IRA, she was lucky to avoid being blown up by them in Brighton.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

She wasn't meeting with the IRA, she was lucky to avoid being blown up by them in Brighton.

Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

 

[Deleted member 18645]

I was making a reference to the bombing. But you're right - this is a slagging-off Corbyn thread.

 

[drdel]

We should have deep concerns when the security services say that Corbyn, the leader of the UK's Opposition party, would not pass the developed vetting process that all senior staff undergo and so would not be cleared to see sensitive material !!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

We should have deep concerns when the security services say that Corbyn, the leader of the UK's Opposition party, would not pass the developed vetting process that all senior staff undergo and so would not be cleared to see sensitive material !!

That may or may not be true, but personally I’d be questioning the integrity of the person within the security services that is divulging such information.

 

[drdel]

That may or may not be true, but personally I’d be questioning the integrity of the person within the security services that is divulging such information.

Sir Richard Dearlove

 

[Deleted member 1147]

sorry but this cosying up to terrorists crap needs to be reigned in by the media and corbyns critics

thatcher was meeting with the IRA and their leaders at the same time she was just smart enough to do it behind closed doors

that said as a big labour fan I find corbyn too weak to be a leader

“Jaw jaw not war war”
I believe a past politician, kind of popular fellow, said that!?!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

But at the time of his meetings Corbyn was not in a position to negotiate with these organisations.

All he could do was offer them support.

 

[Sweep]

She wasn't meeting with the IRA, she was lucky to avoid being blown up by them in Brighton.

About a week before Corbyn invited them to the HoC

 

[Old Skier]

That may or may not be true, but personally I’d be questioning the integrity of the person within the security services that is divulging such information.

True but if I'd done and been to places he's been, my PV would have gone straight out the window and he could soon be in a position where it could really matter.

 

[Sweep]

Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

You will be hailing the Good Friday Agreement next. Wasn’t that John Major and then Tony Blair negotiating with the IRA?
This was not cosying up and supporting them from the back benches like Corbyn was doing. This was trying to bring peace to NI. Both sides making unpalatable and difficult compromises to reach that end goal.
This is a world away from what Corbyn has been doing and you know it.
And I note you STILL can’t defend him without mentioning another party or politician. You can only work on “two wrongs make a right”.
What he has been doing is indefensible. You know it because you can’t defend it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

True but if I'd done and been to places he's been, my PV would have gone straight out the window and he could soon be in a position where it could really matter.

But like you I thought the vetting process was between the individual and the employer, not by someone in a newspaper after he’s retired!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You will be hailing the Good Friday Agreement next. Wasn’t that John Major and then Tony Blair negotiating with the IRA?
This was not cosying up and supporting them from the back benches like Corbyn was doing. This was trying to bring peace to NI. Both sides making unpalatable and difficult compromises to reach that end goal.
This is a world away from what Corbyn has been doing and you know it.
And I note you STILL can’t defend him without mentioning another party or politician. You can only work on “two wrongs make a right”.
What he has been doing is indefensible. You know it because you can’t defend it.

I won’t try and defend it because unlike you I don’t believe everything I read in the newspapers.

I remember when the tory supporters thought it would be hilarious to become members of the Labour Party so they could vote for Corbyn in the Labour leadership election, now the same ones are worried he could win a GE, I wonder if they’re still laughing.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I won’t try and defend it because unlike you I don’t believe everything I read in the newspapers.

I remember when the tory supporters thought it would be hilarious to become members of the Labour Party so they could vote for Corbyn in the Labour leadership election, now the same ones are worried he could win a GE, I wonder if they’re still laughing.

I remember that, I also remember the names of the posters on here who thought it was 'hilarious' and said that they had paid their £3
I wonder if they also remember

 

[Taz]

Rumours are Owen Jones will be s standing to become MP

 

[Old Skier]

I remember that, I also remember the names of the posters on here who thought it was 'hilarious' and said that they had paid their £3
I wonder if they also remember

Yep and I still don't think he will be leader of a Labour Party in government

 

[IanM]

Prime Minister talking to people, not much different to a back bencher with no mandate eh?

Mrs T didnt attend any memorials either...

 

[Deleted member 21784]

You will be hailing the Good Friday Agreement next. Wasn’t that John Major and then Tony Blair negotiating with the IRA?
This was not cosying up and supporting them from the back benches like Corbyn was doing. This was trying to bring peace to NI. Both sides making unpalatable and difficult compromises to reach that end goal.
This is a world away from what Corbyn has been doing and you know it.
And I note you STILL can’t defend him without mentioning another party or politician. You can only work on “two wrongs make a right”.
What he has been doing is indefensible. You know it because you can’t defend it.

How on earth can you defend someone without comparing to someone else or something else to try and rationalise the situation? I’m sorry but you are loading the question to make it impossible to answer

Maybe you should run for parliament because you make it impossible to come back without the answering being deemed wrong by weighted questions.

 

[drdel]

But like you I thought the vetting process was between the individual and the employer, not by someone in a newspaper after he’s retired!

If you sign the official secrets act it is for life.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If you sign the official secrets act it is for life.

So given his past, why was it alright for him to do a newspaper interview and raise his concerns, shouldn’t the security services remain impartial and brief in private.