Labour Party discuss

[SocketRocket]

How on earth can you defend someone without comparing to someone else or something else to try and rationalise the situation? I’m sorry but you are loading the question to make it impossible to answer

Maybe you should run for parliament because you make it impossible to come back without the answering being deemed wrong by weighted questions.

Corbyns like a snake.

 

[oxymoron]

The way the Labour party is going soon it should use its proper name - Momentum, seeing as they look like they are pulling all the strings .Perhaps then someone could form a breakaway actual Labour party like we had in the past (if there can ever be a return to that ) then at least we will know who is who .

 

[Old Skier]

So given his past, why was it alright for him to do a newspaper interview and raise his concerns, shouldn’t the security services remain impartial and brief in private.

Unfortunately our intelligence agencies seem to have their own agend at times.

 

[Old Skier]

Corbyns like a snake.

He's a weak individual who now has surrounded himself with some of the nastiest people in Parliament. I wonder how long before Watson and his sub party jump ship.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Not a Corbyn supporter by any means, but some of the arguments used against him on hear seem to be coming straight out of the UKIP song book.

 

[IanM]

Not a Corbyn supporter by any means, but some of the arguments used against him on hear seem to be coming straight out of the UKIP song book.

such as?

 

[Foxholer]

You will be hailing the Good Friday Agreement next. Wasn’t that John Major and then Tony Blair negotiating with the IRA?
This was not cosying up and supporting them from the back benches like Corbyn was doing. This was trying to bring peace to NI. Both sides making unpalatable and difficult compromises to reach that end goal.
This is a world away from what Corbyn has been doing and you know it.
And I note you STILL can’t defend him without mentioning another party or politician. You can only work on “two wrongs make a right”.
What he has been doing is indefensible. You know it because you can’t defend it.

Some examples please - or are you simply 'going with the propaganda'?!

This article is worth a read for a bit of impartial comment! https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland

 

[Old Skier]

such as?

If ever he's after a wind up he starts his UKIP nonsense which is a bit like kettle and pot with his ultra nationalist views.

 

[Old Skier]

Some examples please - or are you simply 'going with the propaganda'?!

This article is worth a read for a bit of impartial comment! https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland

Interesting but he was always willing to show up at IRA funerals and getting his photo in the media but never once have I seen any evidence of him appearing at any member of the forces funeral to offer his support.

 

[Foxholer]

Interesting but he was always willing to show up at IRA funerals and getting his photo in the media but never once have I seen any evidence of him appearing at any member of the forces funeral to offer his support.

Maybe you read 'the wrong' papers!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Maybe you read 'the wrong' papers!

Any information received from the sun should be Held up against the beano because it’s all bullocks

A paper that has been selling at a loss for like 30 years only kept going because they like to control the country with false stories and corrupt views.

 

[Old Skier]

Maybe you read 'the wrong' papers!

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of the right paper then and we can see how/that he supports our Armd Forces.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Interesting but he was always willing to show up at IRA funerals and getting his photo in the media but never once have I seen any evidence of him appearing at any member of the forces funeral to offer his support.

I genuinely don't know if he has attended forces funerals but I would not base my opinion on what the written press choose to show. Corbyn attending a forces funeral does not fit the picture they want to paint so they are unlikely to show that. Him meeting with certain organisations does fit with their portrayal so they keep bringing those pictures out. The written press, tabloid in particular can not be trusted on that front. Once they have an agenda, whoever the politician or person, they rarely deviate from that path.

 

[Old Skier]

I personally think he had an agenda and he used the media to establish it. For someone who made a career out of voting against the Labour Party I find it strange he never had the courage to form his own Marxist party. Correction, he has, it's called Momentum.

 

[IanM]

Does the word "Fact" in a URL make it so?

 

[chrisd]

I genuinely don't know if he has attended forces funerals but I would not base my opinion on what the written press choose to show. Corbyn attending a forces funeral does not fit the picture they want to paint so they are unlikely to show that. Him meeting with certain organisations does fit with their portrayal so they keep bringing those pictures out. The written press, tabloid in particular can not be trusted on that front. Once they have an agenda, whoever the politician or person, they rarely deviate from that path.

Or perhaps Old Skier is absolutely right 👍

 

[Foxholer]

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of the right paper then and we can see how/that he supports our Armd Forces.

Google is your friend!

https://www.forces.net/news/corbyn-military-needs-more-ships-aircraft-funding-personnel

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ance-day-armistice-ww1-cenotaph-a8626381.html

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/jeremy-corbyn-how-intend-protect-1447266

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...my-corbyn-vows-end-scourge-ex-troops-sleeping

Maybe you just don't bother looking any further than the papers that reinforce your own opinion!!

Oh, and for the record/FWIW, I detest Corbyn! But I'd sooner make the decision to detest him for myself than have it foisted upon me by some propagandist newspaper!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Google is your friend!

https://www.forces.net/news/corbyn-military-needs-more-ships-aircraft-funding-personnel

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ance-day-armistice-ww1-cenotaph-a8626381.html

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/jeremy-corbyn-how-intend-protect-1447266

https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...my-corbyn-vows-end-scourge-ex-troops-sleeping

Maybe you just don't bother looking any further than the papers that reinforce your own opinion!!

Nobody likes to listen to reason and fact when they are so against something

 

[Foxholer]

Nobody likes to listen to reason and fact when they are so against something

So true!

Note the edit I made - last para!

 

[Deleted member 21784]

So true!

Note the edit I made - last para!

Agreed I am no fan of jezza I don’t think he’s a leader but people just throw rubbish at him because they read it in the toilet paper .. I mean sun