Labour and the SNP
- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Well, in fairness, you were well wide of the mark on that one.....
Ba boom:lol:
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Glad you looked at it, was that before or after your post
It is a good system, FGS we even have a UKIP MSP.
The Greens have a good alliance with the SNP and some good SMP's
I naturally assume that nearly all of the SNP voters will give the Greens the second vote, but who do you think will get the second vote of the remaining Tory/Labour voters ?
I will admit that I did look after my post, so I do apologise for misunderstanding it initially. I do still think, however, that there is a strong enough support of lib/lab/con that the green party won't become the 2nd party, even with the funky voting system.
Puter Putter
Medal Winner
The Scots currently have an over-representation in Parliament as there are far too many MP's per head of population north of the border, this is a historical anomaly. Enjoy it while it lasts imo.
No sane political party would get into bed with a party such as the SNP to then be dictated to by the representatives of such a relatively small proportion of the population. We are a democracy after all are we not?
The truth is few people south of the border really gives a monkeys... If a majority of Scots want to leave the UK then go, the majority of the English couldn't give a fig about Scotland remaining in the union - aside perhaps from the Royals.
No sane political party would get into bed with a party such as the SNP to then be dictated to by the representatives of such a relatively small proportion of the population. We are a democracy after all are we not?
The truth is few people south of the border really gives a monkeys... If a majority of Scots want to leave the UK then go, the majority of the English couldn't give a fig about Scotland remaining in the union - aside perhaps from the Royals.
alexbrownmp
Head Pro
I dont think stating a fact is nasty abuse but people do get easily upset on here.
your 'prediction' I seem to remember was only a reflection of every newspaper and poll so trying to claim it was your prediction is a bit pathetic.
I am also only expressing an opinion.:smirk:
alexbrownmp
Head Pro
good post:thup:
The SNP I think are believing their own marketing hype about their importance in the UK
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I suspect that the SNP might have hyped-up that many in rUK don't give a fig about Scotland and used that as the basis for much of their independence argument - but your post suggests it wasn't hype on their part. If the majority of the rUK don't give a fig about Scotland then why would their MPs? And if these MPs hence don't pay attention to Scotland - as their electorate might demand - then the SNP would argue what point the Union - rUK doesn't care about us?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
You have a poor memory as well as a rude manner them.
D
Deleted member 18588
Guest
I keep hearing about SNP winning 56 of 59 seats but that is largely irrelevant as they actually won 56 of 650 seats.
Hence their relevance to UK politics should not be overstated.
Hence their relevance to UK politics should not be overstated.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Can you remember what the Conservative majority was ?
The Tories will start fighting against each other soon, as they generally do, especially over Europe etc etc etc.
Just be patient and you will see.
PS... Just might be 57 seats later in the year.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
That so many folk of the rUK seem to be quite happy stating that the SNP representation in Westminster is irrelevant - is grist to the SNP mill and seriously undermining of the Union. And the more this is stated and the louder it is stated the more likely will be the call for another referendum on the grounds that the NO claims that the rUK loves Scotland and needs Scotland was a complete load of tosh. Either Scottish representation in Westminster has value or it doesn't - it can't just have value if that representation is other than SNP.
D
Deleted member 18588
Guest
Hope & pray as much as you like the SNP are never going to hold the balance of power at Westminster.
Your wish for Scotland to have disproportionate influence sums up why the English electorate will never tolerate that.
Remember the population of Scotland is less than that of the English Midlands but many would never believe this to hear you and others of your ilk constantly bemoaning Scotland's lack of democratic representation.
The best the SNP can achieve is 59 seats out of 650. Same as the Lib Dems at their best. Wow! But because of their wholly political slant north of the border, an absolute irrelevance in terms of change in W'minster.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You build them up and then you knock them down.
Do you honestly think any govt with a working majority thinks highly enough of any other party? Are you that naive?
You're beginning to sound like a watered down version of Doon.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
You could be right SR.
The way things are going I can see no Scottish MP's at Westminster within a decade.
The two English parties are making little effort to keep the UK together.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
No I don't. All I am saying is that if the Scottish electorate feel that their MPs and voice is marginalised or ignored by the rest of Westminster then that is simply grist for the SNP mill.
And then today we read of Tory plans to push EVEL through before the summer recess. You would have thought that as this is a very significant change to the way that Westminster works the Tories would have put considerable time aside to debate and consider the ramifications - instead it is done since 'David Cameron promised it' on the morning after the referendum so must be done. Oh well. Just feels like a bit of gerrymandering. Well rUK can feel pleased because with EVEL we'll never have an PM from a Scottish Westminster seat - hardly equitable status.
Good on you Chris Grayling - watering the seeds of nationalist discontent and further increasing the likely of a Scottish split from the Union..
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Yep, they can go as quick as they came. Funny old game.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
There is an answer if they would like better representation.
Vote Conservative next time.
