ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Surely the general view of the majority of the population is pro Union. Maths was never my strongest subject at school but surely 55.3% voting to stay in the Union is a majority.
Labour and the SNP
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Surely the general view of the majority of the population is pro Union. Maths was never my strongest subject at school but surely 55.3% voting to stay in the Union is a majority.
chippa1909
Head Pro
This is actually the biggie. As you said, all the parties signed up for the Smith proposals.Now this agreement has been broken at the first opportunity.
chippa1909
Head Pro
Shouldn't think the Welsh or NI parliaments are permanent either. Westminster doesn't give up power without a fight.
Power devolved is power retained.
Power devolved is power retained.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
The Unionist view is the view of the majority. I thought the majority voted for the continuation of the union!
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c1973
Guest
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-33268851
Interesting reading. Pity they can't really be questioned on it as parliament (the pretend one) is breaking for the summer hols.
Some would think they were trying to bury bad news......not really in keeping with democratic values, is it?
Yet the sheep blindly follow in the deluded belief they are somehow different and 'progressive'.
Oh how we laugh.
Interesting reading. Pity they can't really be questioned on it as parliament (the pretend one) is breaking for the summer hols.
Some would think they were trying to bury bad news......not really in keeping with democratic values, is it?
Yet the sheep blindly follow in the deluded belief they are somehow different and 'progressive'.
Oh how we laugh.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
This to me is one of the key paragraphs from that story........
"The Scottish government's central estimates on oil revenues published today are over 80% lower than those they published before the referendum."
And yet the SNP supporters complain about the Westminster government lying/breaking promises.
EDIT - Also interesting that the best case scenario now is worse than the worst case scenario before the referendum.
"The Scottish government's central estimates on oil revenues published today are over 80% lower than those they published before the referendum."
And yet the SNP supporters complain about the Westminster government lying/breaking promises.
EDIT - Also interesting that the best case scenario now is worse than the worst case scenario before the referendum.
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chippa1909
Head Pro
If you are laughing at the implications of a Tory government then I suggest you are being very foolish.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Would those "implications" of a Tory government (with Lib Dem help for 5 years) be to reduce the deficit and unemployment despite all the experts saying the cuts would be disastrous and actually get us back into economic growth?
"The U.S. and U.K., which combined account for about a quarter of global growth, are expected to grow 3.1 percent and 2.6 percent this year, respectively. The euro area probably will expand just 1.2 percent as European Central Bank President Mario Draghi deals with a fragile Greece and embarks on a bond-purchase program to stimulate the region's growth."
You just can't believe the Tories got it so wrong. Suppose "we" could have tried to borrow our way out of the mess...
shagster
Head Pro
we did borrow, and in the last government, we borrowed more than in all the time under labour.
debt up to trillions now, cant remember exact figures but look it up, it dos not matter how you spin the figures, we borrowed more, the Tories just play with words and figures to look good
people talk about majorities, yet we as a union are ruled by a party that won just over 24% of the electorate, yet a party with about 8% of the electorate, gets one seat, and we call it democracy.
all the negative vibes about the snp, the political parties should look at them selves and understand that this may happen south of the border, if people take there heads out of the sand and realise what is going on.
there is a lot of ill feeling about many topics, but now the pigs are back at the trough, its not their problem for another 4 & 1/2 years
shagster
debt up to trillions now, cant remember exact figures but look it up, it dos not matter how you spin the figures, we borrowed more, the Tories just play with words and figures to look good
people talk about majorities, yet we as a union are ruled by a party that won just over 24% of the electorate, yet a party with about 8% of the electorate, gets one seat, and we call it democracy.
all the negative vibes about the snp, the political parties should look at them selves and understand that this may happen south of the border, if people take there heads out of the sand and realise what is going on.
there is a lot of ill feeling about many topics, but now the pigs are back at the trough, its not their problem for another 4 & 1/2 years
shagster
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
The recent general election when 56 out of 59 seats were won by the SNP may suggest otherwise.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Only if the state of the Union was on the election card.....was it?
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Well.......there is a wee bit of a clue in the name of the party that won by a huge majority.
Did you miss that?
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
The vagaries of first past the post. The vast majority of the population did not vote for independence when we had the chance. The matter is settled apart from loud voices of the bitter and discontented minority.
You missed out whining... If there was a vote now, and I had a vote, I'd say yes if only to shut up the child in the corner that constantly keeps asking for a biscuit...
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Nope.
Did you miss my question earlier..?
Independence wasn't on the SNP election banner ( happy to be proved wrong) as it had been dealt with at the referendum.
Obviously the SNP's ultimate goal is a break for independence so why would any party join a coalition with them unless it was their aim as well....
In the event of a piece of legislation that would benefit the UK as a whole but potentially harm Scottish interests, would the SNP, in coalition with Labour or anyone else, veto that legislation.?
Of course they would - hence it is incredibly unlikely that the SNP will be in a coalition with any party.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I would not call it a 'vast' majority.
If that was the case it would be settled.
The reaction of Cameron to the Vow and the lies told by Carmichael have since galvanised more Scots to join the SNP.
The election result in Scotland was a total game changer.
With regards to 'bitter', I see no signs of that from my SNP friends but plenty from my unionist friends.
C
c1973
Guest
Pretty obvious what I'm laughing at and it has nothing whatsoever to do with the (democratically elected btw
) Tory Government.alexbrownmp
Head Pro
Havent you SNP 'friends on here who have posted how bitter they are? I believe I have seen these posts.
You also come across as very bitter with the constant postings about the downtrodden SNP by the elected government amongst others, with no substantiated facts.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
No.. you seem to have called that one wrong.
The majority of my SNP friends still can't believe how far they have come in the space of 5 years. They seem to be patiently awaiting the inevitable outcome. Scottish elections next year will be a good indicator.
My unionist friends seem to be in total denial of recent results, they usually make disparaging comments such as 'sheep/idiots/misguided fools' and think it will all blow over once Labour regain their rightful place in a few years.
The SNP are far from 'downtrodden' more like jubilant.
Another good example of the sloping playing field.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...acks-over-Scottish-Queen-funding-warning.html
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