Labour and the SNP

[Adi2Dassler]

why do you think that !!! i was posting the people of ENGLAND should get to vote as well,why should the Scottish people be given more per head than the ENGLISH

Just to bring some sense to you're post. Folk living in Scotland get more than folk living (in certain parts of England) because we generate more moolah. Not everyone in Scotland is Scottish, fyi.

As for the premise of the OP, never gonna happen. Labour hate The SNP more than they hate the Tories.

 

[ColchesterFC]

A lot has happened in Scotland since the referendum vote, maybe you missed that.
'Most dangerous woman in Britain', pre election leaks outed etc.

So what has changed so dramatically in Scotland since the referendum that means the once in a generation pledge is no longer valid?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So what has changed so dramatically in Scotland since the referendum that means the once in a generation pledge is no longer valid?

The SNP won 56 out of 59 seats at the last general election.

To put that into some kind of perspective for you it would mean the Tory party winning about 90% of seats in England.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The SNP won 56 out of 59 seats at the last general election.

To put that into some kind of perspective for you it would mean the Tory party winning about 90% of seats in England.

But we keep getting told that not everyone that voted for the SNP wants independence so I don't see why that's relevant to the once in a generation pledge.

EDIT - unless you're admitting that the SNP are a one policy party.

 

[chrisd]

But we keep getting told that not everyone that voted for the SNP wants independence so I don't see why that's relevant to the once in a generation pledge.

EDIT - unless you're admitting that the SNP are a one policy party.

To be fair Colchester, Scottish politics is a total irrelevance to most of us, except for Doon on here who thinks of another topic every time the last one peters out, to keep the subject alive !

 

[Spuddy]

To be fair Colchester, Scottish politics is a total irrelevance to most of us, except for Doon on here who thinks of another topic every time the last one peters out, to keep the subject alive !

You've posted on this thread 5 times so you must care a little

 

[Doon frae Troon]

To be fair Colchester, Scottish politics is a total irrelevance to most of us, except for Doon on here who thinks of another topic every time the last one peters out, to keep the subject alive !

Really?
I thought that south of Preston oor Nicola was making the front pages as 'the most dangerous woman in Britain'

 

[chrisd]

Really?
I thought that south of Preston oor Nicola was making the front pages as 'the most dangerous woman in Britain'

What's in the papers isn't in anyway representative of what's talked about in pubs and (golf) clubs in this country Doon. Most people don't even vote in a general election and even those who do, rarely chat politics to the level that you do on here. Most people wouldn't be able to pick your Nicola or Alex out of an ID parade and, much less care about their politics.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What's in the papers isn't in anyway representative of what's talked about in pubs and (golf) clubs in this country Doon. Most people don't even vote in a general election and even those who do, rarely chat politics to the level that you do on here. Most people wouldn't be able to pick your Nicola or Alex out of an ID parade and, much less care about their politics.

You won't miss us when we are gone then:lol:

A phrase I am hearing a fair bit up here for the first time is 'the English Government'. [meaning Westminster]
I think lines are starting to be drawn.

 

[chrisd]

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You won't miss us when we are gone then:lol:

A phrase I am hearing a fair bit up here for the first time is 'the English Government'. [meaning Westminster]
I think lines are starting to be drawn.

Once your vote only became a question of whether you were better off financially by staying or going then, sadly, no I won't miss the Scots in th UK. There's more to the Union than that imo

 

[jp5]

You won't miss us when we are gone then:lol:

A phrase I am hearing a fair bit up here for the first time is 'the English Government'. [meaning Westminster]
I think lines are starting to be drawn.

Thought they'd be better informed than that.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

You won't miss us when we are gone then:lol:

A phrase I am hearing a fair bit up here for the first time is 'the English Government'. [meaning Westminster]
I think lines are starting to be drawn.

Maybe that's because you absorb your news from very much pro-independence sources...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Maybe that's because you absorb your news from very much pro-independence sources...

What makes you think that ?
I hear the comments from friends and neighbours, I can't recall reading any.

I absorb my news from many mixed agencies as I have always had an interest in politics.

 

[chippa1909]

My goodness!
Reading these posts it seems like a mini version of how the UK is governed.

We're bigger than you, so we will do as we want. This is called democracy.

The Scottish people voted for 56 out of 59 MPs because they do not trust Labour/Tories/Lib Dems to represent their Scottish constituents. This is called democracy.

In a previous post, someone mentioned the media. There is only one pro independence newspaper, and the rest are pro Union. This is a so called democracy.

There were promises made immediately prior to the referendum which were broken immediately after the result, and continue to be broken (last weeks Scotland Bill). This is democracy.

The "once in a generation" statement keeps getting brought up about a future independence referendum.
Before quoting this, please remember that Margaret Thatcher said before she died, that there was no need for a referendum for Scottish independence. All the Scots had to do was "return more than half of SNP Mps in Scotland, in a general election" That would be democracy.

Democracy rules. (Or it Should
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[ColchesterFC]

There were promises made immediately prior to the referendum which were broken immediately after the result, and continue to be broken (last weeks Scotland Bill). This is democracy.

I've heard this quite a lot both on the forum and from people I work with but what promises have actually been broken? I thought all sides had agreed to go with the recommendations of the Smith Commission and these were in the process of being put into action. It seems as though the SNP having agreed originally have now decided that they want more.

 

[SocketRocket]

In a previous post, someone mentioned the media. There is only one pro independence newspaper, and the rest are pro Union. This is a so called democracy.

What has the political leanings of newspapers got to do with democracy? Do you believe the State should control their views. Would that be called Democracy?

 

[chippa1909]

I've heard this quite a lot both on the forum and from people I work with but what promises have actually been broken? I thought all sides had agreed to go with the recommendations of the Smith Commission and these were in the process of being put into action. It seems as though the SNP having agreed originally have now decided that they want more.

The very first paragraph of the Smith commission proposals stated that the Scottish Parliament should be made permanent. Last week the Tories voted against the SNP's amendment to the Scotland bill which would have made the Scottish Parliament permanent by law. Labour abstained ( of course ).

 

[chippa1909]

What has the political leanings of newspapers got to do with democracy? Do you believe the State should control their views. Would that be called Democracy?

The media is already controlled by the State via meglomaniac newspaper owners with their own agendas.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The very first paragraph of the Smith commission proposals stated that the Scottish Parliament should be made permanent. Last week the Tories voted against the SNP's amendment to the Scotland bill which would have made the Scottish Parliament permanent by law. Labour abstained ( of course ).

I hadn't realised that the Scottish Parliament wasn't permanent. Any idea if the Welsh and Northern Irish Assemblies are permanent or not?

What other promises have been broken?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What has the political leanings of newspapers got to do with democracy? Do you believe the State should control their views. Would that be called Democracy?

It is way beyond a joke up here now SR.
Layers and layers of lies in the press, The State is not controlling the press but the vast majority of Scotland's press is supporting the Unionist cause and not the general view of the majority of the population. We are beginning to understand what Pravda was to the USSR.

Really backfiring on them though as more and more Scots see it for what it is.